What i want to share= battle of waterloo

[ramses12]

because it looks like etw

part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8FeHdF6vJY

part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjpPb...eature=related

part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjTiTtCrayw

a nice example of the use of twelve pounder cannons!

and at 2:21 is an explanation of accuratness of muskets- very interesting!

part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5bKX...eature=related

part 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfO1U...eature=related

and beware that the poster DrBogdanovic have a lot more about napoleon

for example battle of waterloo
napoleon mastering luck
napoleon to destiny
napoleon the summit of ambition
napoleon the end

and another interesting battle:

battle of balaclava

have fun!

[Lord Nova]

Nice indeed(rep+), however I think it over simplifies a little too much (especially when talking about musket accuracy) but check out hollywood's take
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHHzd7XOwJ4
They used the soviet army to get those numbers.

and of course Poltava
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gQK...eature=related
but who hasn't seen this one? I know it isn't Napoleon but it fits Empire's timeline better.

[ramses12]

Nice indeed(rep+), however I think it over simplifies a little too much (especially when talking about musket accuracy)

thx
yep- but wellingtons surprise is what i miss in etw- advantage using of terrain, making trapps because u can see all moves of the enemies troops from sky instead the sight of a general

and of course Poltava
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gQK...eature=related
but who hasn't seen this one? I know it isn't Napoleon but it fits Empire's timeline better.

cool ! thx

[Zamarn]

and of course Poltava
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gQK...eature=related
but who hasn't seen this one? I know it isn't Napoleon but it fits Empire's timeline better.

Nice but I like the battle of Narva better, to bad i don't know of any move about it.
would rep you if i could

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

and of course Poltava
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gQK...eature=related
but who hasn't seen this one? I know it isn't Napoleon but it fits Empire's timeline better.

Not a very accurate movie judging by that.
For one why is Charles XII commanding that battle ??
He was in a coma-like state during the time of the battle from a gunshot wound in the foot.
Here he is lying on a chair commanding his army with a bandaged foot.
Even when he was hit in the foot he kept on fighting so if he was awake during the battle he would have no doubt fought like he usually did.
Also, why aren't they reloading ??
Still nice to see some swedish in a war-movie for once.

Also Waterloo was good.

[Lord Nova]

Not a very accurate movie judging by that.
For one why is Charles XII commanding that battle ??
He was in a coma-like state during the time of the battle from a gunshot wound in the foot.
Here he is lying on a chair commanding his army with a bandaged foot.
Even when he was hit in the foot he kept on fighting so if he was awake during the battle he would have no doubt fought like he usually did.
Also, why aren't they reloading ??
Still nice to see some swedish in a war-movie for once.

Also Waterloo was good.

Well when in doubt check a wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Poltava

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The Swedes waited for Roos to return. As time went by, the Russians infantry moved out of its fortified camp. Around 9:00 am, the Swedish line started to move forward; 4,000 Swedish infantry against 20,000 Russian infantry. They advanced and the Russians opened fire on them with their guns creating a firestorm of shells. When the Swedes were 100 meters from the Russian line, the Russians aimed and fired their muskets. When they were 30 meters from the Russian line, the Swedes fired one volley and charged.

This goes with the tactics for the time according to this
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=246168
Check out Warhammster's post

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The Carolean tactics almost exclusively relied on very aggressive shock tactic as the infantry and cavalry charged the enemy. When the bayonet was introduced, the pike was discarded in all European armies except the Swedish and Russian by 1700.
The infantry shock attack operated as follows: The two rear ranks of musketeers were ordered to shoot when "you could see the white in the enemies eye," a range of roughly 50 meters, and then to draw their swords before the battalion resumed their attack. The two foremost ranks then discharged at a range of roughly 20 meters before drawing their swords and the charge began. At this range, the powerful muskets usually felled many enemy troops and was demoralising to them. Directly after the volley the Swedes charged the enemy ranks with pikes, bayonets and rapiers. Note that the pikes were used as an offensive weapon: in close combat they had the advantage over their foes' weapons thanks to their range. After the bayonet was introduced in the Carolean army (1700–1706), the final volley was delayed until the soldiers were inside bayonet range.
Every infantry battalion had grenadiers attached. They supported the infantry attack by lobbing grenades from the flanks. They also formed units of their own. They were otherwise equipped like infantry.
Thus, in the latter half of the 17:th century, the major difference between the Swedish army and those common on the continent was the relative lack of firepower and the use of pikes and sabres. Sweden and Russia were the only countries at the time using pikes. In contemporary Europe infantry was equipped with a musket while in the Swedish army every third man had a pike. The pikemen were normally deployed 4 men deep with musketeers of equal depth on the sides. The pike was used to repulse cavalry and to break the enemy lines as they charged.

So it appears the Russian and Swedish armies engage at far closer range then their European counterparts and favored up close hand to hand fighting over shoot outs. From everything I've read about these 2 nations during this period, I remember reading somewhere that either the Swedes or the Russians were sometimes not even trained to reload but simply to fire the first volley and charge.

[Emperor of The Great Unknown]

wiki isn't relaible so when in doubt not check wiki.

[Humble Warrior]

Very nice. I`m not an expert on this time so it taught me a little. Notice how when Napoleon sends his men to take the farm in the 3rd episode they used LADDERS as I would expect, not grappling hooks. Grappling hooks would`ve been unfeasible to use in reality with whole armies. I have no idea why CA thought giving men grappling hooks would help when ladders would`ve been fine and more realistic.

Anyway, good show and Rep+1

[Lord Nova]

wiki isn't relaible so when in doubt not check wiki.

Wiki's aren't reliable for entertainment purposes and pop culture. For things regarding hard statistics or history it's as reliable as a textbook besides I don't see anyone else citing anything to contradict it

[Roman Knight]

wiki isn't relaible so when in doubt not check wiki.

Check it, don't cite it.

[Emperor of The Great Unknown]

the grafics where a little under etw and most of it was role play and replay.

[GODzilla]

I'd like to get it high-res, what's the original name of this documentation?

[Rooie]

Nice post rep+ for you

[ramses12]

I'M impressed of this:

battle of waterloo 3/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsSkNIIlplk

Tests of cannon-crews and test to show differences between missiles

i recommend to see the series

[cerebus23]

i saw this show on history hd, good show. wellington was just brilliant in his use of the land, still begs the question if napoleon had been 100% if things would have been different.

[Humble Warrior]

i saw this show on history hd, good show. wellington was just brilliant in his use of the land, still begs the question if napoleon had been 100% if things would have been different.

I do get the feeling that if napoleon had been on the ball he would well have defeated Wellington. Wellington basically just sat there and used the land to his advantage. i`ll admit his `go prone` command was a good one though. However it wouldn`t have been enough if Napoleon had been awake, methinks. Napoleon made some really noobish judgement errors that i`m sure he wouldn`t have normally made. Then to just send his Elite men forward in a last ditch `I must win cos i`m Napoleon` smacks of childishness.

I really do think he wasn`t well on that day and just wanted it over quickly.

[Lord Nova]

I do get the feeling that if napoleon had been on the ball he would well have defeated Wellington. Wellington basically just sat there and used the land to his advantage. i`ll admit his `go prone` command was a good one though. However it wouldn`t have been enough if Napoleon had been awake, methinks. Napoleon made some really noobish judgement errors that i`m sure he wouldn`t have normally made. Then to just send his Elite men forward in a last ditch `I must win cos i`m Napoleon` smacks of childishness.

I really do think he wasn`t well on that day and just wanted it over quickly.

Actually Napoleon won the day vs Wellington. It was the Prussians that sealed his fate. If the contingent of Napoleon's army that he sent to attack the prussians would have come back and reinforced his front, or better yet actually attacked the Prussians before they could unite with the British, it would have been a completely different outcome. In other words, Napoleon got screwed by the Reinforcement bug

Napoleon: WTF? the Prussians are on my flank? They weren't there on the campaign map. I hate fighting 2 nations, they always get to use 2 full stacks and I gotta use my 2 stacks one at a time.... ow my stomach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvBw...eature=related
Check in at around 2:00 where they basically explain the quote from the commander

.. and divide my force? France would hang me. Maybe France would be right

He misunderstood the order Napoleon gave him and Napoleon payed dearly for this.

Like Wellington's soldiers appearing on the top of the hill to deliver the Coup de grâce to the Imperial Guard, when it really happened on the reverse slope, with a completely arbitrary casualty rate tacked onto the statement.

Or Napoleon deliberately firing his artillery towards the enemy, despite knowing his own retreating soldiers would get caught in it. I don't think that ever happened.

Napoleon loved his men, he would have died there on the field had it not been for his aides (he knew he didn't have long to live anyways). He certainly wouldn't have used artillery in such a manner with his own troops being at risk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfIQF-mY208
A dramatization of his goodbye to the old guard (his first exile).

For you METAL HEADS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBhAUtMUF2M
Iced Earth's Waterloo, it's as informative as Iron Maiden's Alexander the Great

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dud6UYOfkO4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsW3i...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh6M4...eature=related
Iced Earth's - Gettysburg, all 3 days

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgqxQmAbTBc
Iron Maiden classic about Crimean war, hmm I guess run to the hills fits the timeline too, pity the video for it is so goofy (good song either way), and yes I know these have been posted before, you don't want to watch them, then don't click on them.

[Mordrorru]

I believe I've seen this documentary before, and if it's the one I suspect, it's rather inaccurate.

Like Wellington's soldiers appearing on the top of the hill to deliver the Coup de grâce to the Imperial Guard, when it really happened on the reverse slope, with a completely arbitrary casualty rate tacked onto the statement.

Or Napoleon deliberately firing his artillery towards the enemy, despite knowing his own retreating soldiers would get caught in it. I don't think that ever happened.

Just saying.


Also, Wellington is a noob. I won by Hill Camping!