Tiro
Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
I haven't had a chance to test this but would anyone want to try it?
1) Start GC as Prussia.
2) Trade East Prussia to England for Ireland.
3) Leave Brandenburg undefended and let someone declare war.
4) Let them capture Brandenburg moving your capital to Ireland.
5) Get peace.
6) Spike your taxes and cause rebellion. Side with the rebels.
7) Presto, you're Ireland.
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
I have never lost my capital, so i dont know much about changing it.
If you have a rebellion and you are prussia, you still going to be prussia. Your flag will change and you will be a republic.
So there is no way you are going to be irelend. You could pretend you were, but you arent
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Vicarius Provinciae
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
You're game would be over on turn 4. Sorry.Originally Posted by MrOsterman
Although I'm with you my brother, I wish CA had gotten off their lazy arses and made Ireland a faction in its own, or at least let us pick it (and all other emergent factions) when it popped up.
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Tiro
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
Are you sure? Seems unfair that the AI gets to move their capital around and 'stay in the game'. I remember being really cheesed that I marched 3 stacks through all of the Cherokee nation to sack their capital, took it and then they just relocated it to Florida. Little buggers.
Though now that I thikn about it, I think you're right.
Poop. Any other ideas how to pull it off? Guess we need a mod or something to assign the nation that territory because I know the emergent factions mod will unlock it as a campaign nation but because Ireland has no holdings you can't do anything.
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
You can lose your capital during a campaign. Playing as Prussia with darthmod i ended up in a bit of a bit spot very early on and lost both Brandenburg and East Prussia on the same turn (that's what happens when you commit most of your standing army to take on Austria).
Luckily I had just taken Silencia at the end of the previous turn so my capital switched to that (It was my ONLY territory) and I was able to take back Brandenburg - that was fun, I had to disband most of my forces due to bankruptcy; I even thought I might lose
Yes, you can lose your capital. What kills you is losing ALL of your provinces in your home theatre.
As for the OP's plan, that wouldn't work I'm afraid. You would still be Prussia, it would just be a Prussian revolution in Ireland. You can't just switch faction mid-game unfortunately.
Last edited by Collic; April 13, 2009 at 09:29 AM.
Tiro
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
You know.. I may just test this at home tonight. I do have a save game where I'm Prussia and I do hold Ireland. I could just give everything to say Russia, and then declare war on them to let them sieze it and move my capital to Ireland....
A shame though.... that revolution should at least have a little Irish flag when they march on the new Prussian captial. I mean forget being called Ireland in the diplomacy screen.. I just want the green uniforms and the harp flag...
Mr. O
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
I agree it would be cool. If you hold Ireland and got it to rebel I believe you would be facing an Irish army; and If they retook that province it would indeed be Ireland.
However, that would only happen as long as Ireland is not your capital. If it is, it would be an internal Prussian revolt, since it's your capital and only territory at that point.
I haven't tested this personally, but I'm 99.9 percent sure that's the case.
Tiro
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
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Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
Haha, okay, okay, Silesia. You know I meant
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Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
And not fake everyone out by having highland clansmen on their site that aren't even playable in game. Brilliant.
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Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
I don't know if this helps but, I tried this playing as the Thirteen colonies (used a mod to unlock all factions) and had my capital rebel, but it just had the United States appear, but would not let me choose as being on their side. I think the only time you can have a rebellion work is as a main faction and having your own capital rebel, only then can you choose sides.
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Loutre
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
You could always use the file created by the Cipher following the excellent tutorial by GeorgiaPeanuts [Tutorial] How to change region ownerships + enable emergent factions to be played. topic
It does come with some issues but it allows you to play Ireland. All thanks to Cipher and GeorgiaPeanuts though.All right heres the fix version for the Ireland Faction.
Norway is now also playable
Info:
- Ireland's Capital is Ireland
- Norway's Capital is Norway
Known probems:
- The Government page is blank (dont click anything on the page or the game will crash) <- This probably on the game scripting etc.
- There are no pictures of the faction leaders on the Diplomatic Page.
- Cannot research technology because there is no School or University Present in the region. Solution - Steal a region with a school to be able to research technologies.
Download:
If you experience any problems please do let me know thanksCode:http://rapidshare.com/files/216077130/IrelandandNorway.rar
Install:
Back up your startpos.esf in your Campaign\Main Folder
Extract the startpos.esf from the download into your Campaign\Main folder
Last edited by LuckyLewis; April 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM.
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Tiro
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
Oh! I missed that. I was looking at the mods and saw one that said it had Ireland but since Ireland started with no territory you were on your own. I'm not sure how I feel about not using the goverment screen. Can I still get in and set tax policy or are all goverment functions disabled?It does come with some issues but it allows you to play Ireland. All thanks to Cipher and GeorgiaPeanuts though.
Of course the easy solution would be, CA, just patching it to let us have an Ireland campaign, and I hope we don't have to pay extra unless we get some slick Irish only units. Or at least a sound patch to play "Minstrel Boy" as our lines advance....
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
All government functions are disabled, so the work around is to start your campaign with the advisory to handle all tax policies and plan on spending a metric load of cash on dragoons for the police bonus.
I got to 1734 before a fatal CTD happened during a turn with France.
Vicarius
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
Could you imagine the uproar if they did allow you to play as Ireland without enabling all the other factions who actually were independent in the time period.
Civis
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
Well the act of union between Ireland and the UK hasn't happened at the start of the game.
Ireland was crucial in the Jacobite rebellions for example.
One of the biggest let downs in my mind was that there's not a Jacobite faction. I really like the method of government change, but it would have seemed obvious to me that Great Britain should suffer from Jacobite rebellions, etc.
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Loutre
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
As the download also comes with Norway, and i've been using Norway myself, I can tell you that the Government Screen does'nt seem to work at the very start. Nevertheless, once I had taken my first region (Denmark), I got a message stating that I have a new faction leader and most, if not all government functions seem to work for me, including the setting of a tax policy. You do have a few disadvantages though, at the start, you cannot recruit anything else except milita as the Norway and Ireland regions seem to only have a small city e.g. you cannot build the military buildings or other buildings you get in London or Paris for example. But you can simply take a city such as London to enable you access to better units.
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Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
Uh, the AI doesn't. Their capital moved because you conquered it. Every nation has a designated capital (e.g. GB has London, France has Paris etc...). If it's taken, they'll just allocate another one. If they ever take their original capital back, it becomes their capital. A capital can only be desingated in the same theatre as your original, and if it then can't be allocated (i.e., you have no regions in your home theatre) you are destroyed.Are you sure? Seems unfair that the AI gets to move their capital around and 'stay in the game'. I remember being really cheesed that I marched 3 stacks through all of the Cherokee nation to sack their capital, took it and then they just relocated it to Florida. Little buggers
No-one can choose, and your capital has no bearing whatsoever apart from your "destruction" if you don't have one. Also, only your original capital can stage a revolution.
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Tiro
Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
A lightbulb just went off in my head!
If you could get into the game folders (i'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to locate something this simple), i'm sure maybe you could change the name of you faction from Prussia to Ireland...
Would it work?
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Re: Playing as Ireland in GC: Would this work?
losing your original capital ends the game and you would still have prussias units even if that was modded out.
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