Star forts

**caralampio** · April 12, 2009, 08:32 PM

What is required to make star forts? I can make wooden forts but don't see any option to upgrade them.

(Not that forts are any use, but they look cool on the map and I have money to throw away).

Also, is there any way to tear down forts?

**Pontifex Maximus** · April 12, 2009, 08:34 PM

Moved to gameplay and strategy.

**Morrpheous** · April 13, 2009, 01:09 AM

You build star forts through a construction tab when you click on the fort. However you can only upgrade it from an artillery fort and you need to have met the research pre-requisites first. Can't remember what they are exactly but I believe they are in the artillery stream

**iricund** · April 13, 2009, 03:53 AM

You may well require a general to be present at the same time - much as with the initial construction of the fort. That said I only started to really utilise forts last night. I'm learning by doing along with the rest of us.

**TiTiTimmy** · April 13, 2009, 04:13 AM

You need to upgrade the wooden fort to an artillery fort which cost 4500 and then to the star fort which cost 6000.

**caralampio** · April 13, 2009, 08:32 AM

Yes but my wooden fort doesn't have the upgrade option. I have a general inside. I am pretty advanced in the artillery line, I only need to discover 2 or 3 things and build the last building. Could some of these be the prerequisite?

BTW wooden forts seem to disappear (instantly!) the moment you move out.

**TiTiTimmy** · April 13, 2009, 01:20 PM

That sounds odd, all the wooden forts I have build stays for good, but you don't need any technology to upgrade the fort just money.

**Mr Roet** · April 13, 2009, 02:52 PM

The upgrading option won't appear if you don't have the money, however.

**Capt_Amazing** · April 13, 2009, 02:58 PM

If you have built the fort inside your own territory you should get a construction option. If the fort is in enemy territory it can only be a wood fort untill you have captured that region.

**Franbo** · April 14, 2009, 01:43 AM

... on a related note; I seem to be unable to ever put units in the "point" of the star (i.e. across the thing bridges).

Is it just me (i.e. I haven't persevered with clicking every millimetre of the area) or does anyone else have the same problem?

Franbo

**Gornard** · April 16, 2009, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Franbo

... on a related note; I seem to be unable to ever put units in the "point" of the star (i.e. across the thing bridges).

Is it just me (i.e. I haven't persevered with clicking every millimetre of the area) or does anyone else have the same problem?

Franbo

I believe the parts attached by bridges are called 'ravelins'. You can indeed put units up there. It's easiest before the battle, you may have to babysit the units a little bit when moving them accross that bridge though, especially if there are ropes present as your own troops like to climb up and down them.

**Rubrum** · April 14, 2009, 11:33 AM

For me, navigating ANY fort is a real pain. Units never use the path I expect them too. They never shoot from the positions I expect them too. I just feel like I'm not controlling much during siege.

**dabub** · April 14, 2009, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rubrum

For me, navigating ANY fort is a real pain. Units never use the path I expect them too. They never shoot from the positions I expect them too. I just feel like I'm not controlling much during siege.

I feel the same way. That is why I make it a point to destroy every fortifications in towns that I take over because I find I am more effective at defending a non fort siege by garrisoning and using arty effectively. With the way the strategic map bug is, I can never tell which side of the fort to try to defend and they never defend effectively on the walls. If I am forced to defend in a fort, I tend to do better defending in the courtyard and shooting them down as they come down the stairs.

**Coilz** · April 16, 2009, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by dabub

I feel the same way. That is why I make it a point to destroy every fortifications in towns that I take over because I find I am more effective at defending a non fort siege by garrisoning and using arty effectively. With the way the strategic map bug is, I can never tell which side of the fort to try to defend and they never defend effectively on the walls. If I am forced to defend in a fort, I tend to do better defending in the courtyard and shooting them down as they come down the stairs.

That is so true, and what a shame. There's too many factors that are random, in order to deploy your units in a fort. I wanted to move my units off the fortifications and back into my base. They ended up taking using the enemy's siege equipment to ground level and then running through 2 enemy groups to the gate. I was kind of astounished how stupid that was.