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    Does anybody else think that their should be an option to liberate a country from its former conquerers when you capture a region?
    I remember seeing this in Imperial glory were you had the option to conquer the country and add it to your empire or liberate it and the faction that used to control it reappear
    I would realy love to see this in Empire because I just dont thing it feels right invading Ireland and Scotland as the French and than having to force them to rebel to make them to appear and than they hate me forever,I would prefer it if they would love me forever for freeing them from British tyranny.
    Also if a strong ally was conquered it would be very usefull if you could bring them back.
    Please give me your thoughts on this

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    By liberation you mean that one faction takes a region from another faction, and then you come and return it to the faction the ruled there first, or to make a new country that is independent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeleton Of The West View Post
    By liberation you mean that one faction takes a region from another faction, and then you come and return it to the faction the ruled there first, or to make a new country that is independent?
    He means like this:

    Denmark is taken over completly by Sweden (just ignore the fact there are no naval invasions). You go to war with Sweden, and you invade Copenhagen.

    After you win, you are given the choice to add the region to your empire or to liberate it, thus bring Denmark back and liberating the Danes from their oppressors.

    Because of this, Denmark is greatly appreciatve.


    However I would think it would be better if you could make them your protectorate after liberating them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodzen View Post
    Does anybody else think that their should be an option to liberate a country from its former conquerers when you capture a region?
    I remember seeing this in Imperial glory were you had the option to conquer the country and add it to your empire or liberate it and the faction that used to control it reappear
    I would realy love to see this in Empire because I just dont thing it feels right invading Ireland and Scotland as the French and than having to force them to rebel to make them to appear and than they hate me forever,I would prefer it if they would love me forever for freeing them from British tyranny.
    Also if a strong ally was conquered it would be very usefull if you could bring them back.
    Please give me your thoughts on this

    you could always treat them even worse than the Brits historically did and hopefully they'd rebel.. they best way would be to play Britain ( something I have a inkling you'd be loathe to do ) then watch Britain Burn... it wouldn't make for an illustrious campaign but would be fun to watch.

    Actually when I played Britain I gave favouritism to Scotland and Ireland .. No clearances .. best fisheries and industry... Actually playing this game gave me a great insight into Britains mentality of those times and maybe some of the reasons they were so harsh on us. Not excusing anything though.


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    I think that liberating countries is very important, because instead of a rebellious province you would get an ally that also would help you in the war.

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    I think this would be a great idea raising Portugal from the ashes after I couldn't get aid to them in time or the UP when I didn't honour an alliance would make me feel better and allow for increased role playing.
    I would also like it if you could extend the idea and offer autonomy to rebellious provinces so that Ireland for example emerges as a protectorate. This would be even better if you were able to raise a limited number of units from protectorates.
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    i sorta did this in my prussian campaign with hungary, not having the will to supress the crapload of rebellions i just let them rebel, offered peace, alliance money and trade and they were happier than pigs in

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    Yeah, liberating regions would be cool.

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    Who else thought of HOI2 when they saw this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Guide View Post
    Who else thought of HOI2 when they saw this?
    Well, EU3: same-same but different.

    The system they have there is very well implemented. When you own a number of specific regions historically owned by a certain country you could install puppet state (or whatever the term was). In ETW this could be done by having them become a protectorate under you. And given the size of provinces in ETW it probably shouldn't be more than 1 or 2 required to establish a puppet state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Cody Anderson View Post
    Imperial Glory sucked.
    So does Empire...

    And another thing, for its time and the era it did, Imperial Glory was a good game.

    So yea, you've lost credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac Dhonuill nan Eilean View Post
    you could always treat them even worse than the Brits historically did and hopefully they'd rebel.. they best way would be to play Britain ( something I have a inkling you'd be loathe to do ) then watch Britain Burn... it wouldn't make for an illustrious campaign but would be fun to watch.
    Actually when I played Britain I gave favouritism to Scotland and Ireland .. No clearances .. best fisheries and industry... Actually playing this game gave me a great insight into Britains mentality of those times and maybe some of the reasons they were so harsh on us. Not excusing anything though.
    Lol thats what I did when I first played them, I felt bad controlling my home country Ireland so I made them rebel,but than I began to feel I should help them so I kept sending them money and before long handing them over regions and in no time they owned half of europe and parts of America and had the status terrifying and spectactular leaving me with a huge civil war in England I had no hope of winning...so ye probably shouldnt take it too far next time

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Cody Anderson View Post
    Imperial Glory sucked.
    It was almost as good as Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    He means like this:

    Denmark is taken over completly by Sweden (just ignore the fact there are no naval invasions). You go to war with Sweden, and you invade Copenhagen.

    After you win, you are given the choice to add the region to your empire or to liberate it, thus bring Denmark back and liberating the Danes from their oppressors.
    Because of this, Denmark is greatly appreciatve.


    However I would think it would be better if you could make them your protectorate after liberating them.
    Yup thats what I meen

    Also,liberating a country would give you big bonuses from them such as
    Very freindly status,
    Possible reward such as gold for saving them,
    They should become your protecrate since they would be very weak afterwards
    Military access,
    etc
    Overall it would be a very good feature,CA should consider putting it in
    Last edited by Bloodzen; April 12, 2009 at 02:05 PM.

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    I would really like to see this. Could feature the option of making them a protectorate, of course you would get military access, alliance and perfect relations anyway. This would definately increase the playability of the game. For example setting free nations like Norway, Scotland and Ireland. Now if the hotseat ability to switch nations was reintroduced one could choose to change faction to one of the released factions once you freed them using the console.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Yngvar View Post
    I would really like to see this. Could feature the option of making them a protectorate, of course you would get military access, alliance and perfect relations anyway. This would definately increase the playability of the game. For example setting free nations like Norway, Scotland and Ireland. Now if the hotseat ability to switch nations was reintroduced one could choose to change faction to one of the released factions once you freed them using the console.
    Great idea,the hotseat option combined with the liberation option would be awesome.If you got bored of playing your current campaign because you were just too strong etc,than you could just liberate or make another country appear,switch to them and than you will have a nation that would control evrything you used to have fighting againts you.
    That would make the best campaign ever

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