Deadliest Warrior TV show

[pericles_plato]

TV show
warrior vs warrior
One was gladiator vs Apache

I say gladiator. Roman shield helmet sword vs all weapon of an Apache gladiator wins.

[Jacket60]

i think if fought in a forest the advantage goes to the apache. if in an arena, advantage gladiator

[fieldmarshal]

I watched it yesterday, and i for the most part agree with their assessment. But still in the end its up to the individual skill, something that cant be measured via computer program that they use.

[Mathias]

In melee combat, shield= win.

[cupoftea]

Hm... Weren't gladiators mostly untrained bandits and stuff? Apaches had been trained for their whole life. Their are too many factors to calculate it accuratly.

[Rapax]

The concept for this show is pretty brilliant actually. All the retarded discussions done in the history forum about who could beat who (Pirates vs. Ninjas!!!) made into a show. A show that's 80% ing up with weapons. I don't think anyone cares who would win, they just love shredding gel dummies in every way possible.
It really is a man's show, dripping with testosterone. Kudos for these guys keeping a straight face while making their childish boasts "yeah? well my sword is longer!".
I also like the inclusion of the doctor, the show definitely wouldn't work without his expert assessments of weapons damage.
*dude breaks skull open with club* "Hmm, that would have killed him." Yeah thanks doc, I really couldn't tell.

All in all a very nice infotainment show, I liked the little reenactments too, looked better than most docu stuff.

[Quink.NL]

Hm... Weren't gladiators mostly untrained bandits and stuff?

Ehm, quite the opposite. Well trained slaves who, when they fought well, got all the food and women they wanted, and would never die in combat even if they would lose.

[Grof]

In melee combat, shield= win.

well the viking had a shield and got his handed to him.

I think the weapons they compared were wrong. They should have compared the long axe with the naginata and the long sword with the katana.

next one is interesting Spartan vs Ninja.

[Rapax]

next one is interesting Spartan vs Ninja.

That sounds hilarious on so many levels.
Apparently they are making it a point to always pit a shielded against an unshielded opponent. I'm also sure the fact that Spartan's battle strength came from being part of a well drilled phalanx formation will receive little recognition.

[Amroth]

well the viking had a shield and got his handed to him.

They also had him throw a perfectly good shield away - which goes against what any viking warrior, or warrior period, would have done. No surprise that the samurai won, what with the stereotypical portrayals of both fighters.

[MathiasOfAthens]

I missed the ending, but the show was pretty cool, someone tell me who they said would win. I would have picked the Apache because he had more offensive weapons, throwing knife, throwing axe, bow and arrow. While the Gladiator could really only defend and attack at medium distance. No long range attacks for the Gladiator.
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[fieldmarshal]

I missed the ending, but the show was pretty cool, someone tell me who they said would win. I would have picked the Apache because he had more offensive weapons, throwing knife, throwing axe, bow and arrow. While the Gladiator could really only defend and attack at medium distance. No long range attacks for the Gladiator.

The computer calculated that the Apache would win most of the time.

The only thing i didn't like about the show was, it took warriors who are waay different, in terms of weapons, skills, training, strategy..etc

They should have done something like Gladiators and vikings, instead they are going to do Vikings vs Samurai next..seriously....i would rather see a samurai vs a knight or a renaissance swordsmen. And they should have chosen a more agile opponent for the apache as well.

[Pallantides]

It seems rather retarded.

[LSJ]

Its about as intelligent as any discussion on TWC about Samurai vs Spartan, so yeah, its pretty retarded.

Even if you compare weapons and average fighting ability, something as simple as a rock in the sand could cause the gladiator to lose balance and have a knife plunged into his heart. Or if its windy, the axe might be thrown a centimetre off course, meaning rather than a kill, it glances off a shield. A weapon might break. One warrior might be too slow to block one attack.

Who wins cannot be predicted.

[Rapax]

Even if you compare weapons and average fighting ability, something as simple as a rock in the sand could cause the gladiator to lose balance and have a knife plunged into his heart. Or if its windy, the axe might be thrown a centimetre off course, meaning rather than a kill, it glances off a shield. A weapon might break. One warrior might be too slow to block one attack.

That however is completely beside the point in the show as they have their little program run hundreds of simulated encounters, measuring who wins the most fights. It is an approximation based on an average.

What is dubious however is how they seem to be mainly looking at the effectiveness of different weapons and pitting their "stats" against each other. I don't know what kind of program they're using, what kind of data they feed into it but it seems somewhat trivial.
Also curious is how there have been different types of Gladiators but the show never mentions that and opts to equip their version of a generic Gladiator simply with all weapons available to them.

[pericles_plato]

The newest one was viking vs samurai.

I was for samurai all the way.
it's basically brains vs brauns.

[fieldmarshal]

I was for samurai all the way. The samurai won.

AH!..curse you for spoiling that...i haven't watched it et.

[pericles_plato]

AH!..curse you for spoiling that...i haven't watched it et.

oops. Edited it. It says no one now.
I forgot i wrote that. Wont happen again. Their will be no spoilers from now on from anybody.

just say who you think would win. Though they didn't pick the best weapons for a viking.
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[frontier-auxilia]

Err gladiator throws net, apache dude goes "Err wtf is this " got trapped in one and stabbed to death

gladiator: 1
apache: 0

[Rapax]

After watching the intro more closely, I'm starting to wonder a little about the "deadliest warrior" concept.
A number of "warriors" can be identified in the intro and discounting those that have already been done or clearly announced, they are: a medieval knight(possibly french or english), a shaolin monk, a modern US Army soldier, a 1930's mobster(seriously) and a guy I couldn't identify, but he's throwing a ball and chains(oh, maybe a pirate? if you got ninjas, you gotta have pirates).

Now what I wonder about and everybody should as well, how does the mobster fit into this? I'm not being creative here, the guy was wearing a suit and hat and holding a double barreled shotgun.
I also saw them testing one of those lovely "shooting knives" which are popularly associated with spetznaz, so I'm thinking those will be in there as well.

Clearly the show would be more fun if, after all the testing and school yard bragging, they'd just send their experts into the ring to duke it out and see who wins.