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    More than 20 Britons who have trained in al Qaeda terror camps inside Pakistan have returned to Britain, according to Pakistani intelligence.

    The Britons, whose families are from Pakistan, were monitored by Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence agency, Sky News reported. But the ISI failed to notify British intelligence until after the men entered the country, the news agency reported. Four of the Britons are thought to have actively fought inside Afghanistan. The men claimed to have entered Pakistan to visit relatives, study, vacation, or work for a charity. "The suspects are aged between 17 and 23 and have apparently created 'sufficient suspicion' with their activities for the ISI to believe they pose a 'potential danger' to Britain."

    British intelligence officers are nearly overwhelmed with tracking terror suspects operating inside Britain, many of whom are Pakistanis. In November 2008, an intelligence report stated there are "extremist concentrations" in "London, [and] Birmingham, with significant extremist networks in the South East, notably Luton."

    Thousands of suspected British terrorists are supporting terror attacks inside Britain and abroad. "The majority of extremists are British nationals of south Asian, mainly Pakistani origin but there are also extremists from north and east Africa, Iraq and the Middle East," the report stated.

    Many of the major post-Sept. 11 plots and attacks against the West have been traced back to Pakistan's tribal areas. Western Arabs and South Asians have traveled to Pakistan's tribal areas for approval, guidance, training, financing, and support to conduct their attacks. US intelligence officials are concerned that al Qaeda's next big attack, like past attacks and foiled plots, will originate in Pakistan's tribal areas. "We believe the next major attack will be carried out by someone carrying a Western passport," a US intelligence official told The Long War Journal in September 2008. The official was clearly worried about the deteriorating security situation in northwestern Pakistan.

    The US has conducted multiple strikes in northwestern Pakistan in an effort to incapacitate al Qaeda's external network. The US targeted al Qaeda and Taliban camps 36 times in 2008, and have hit nine camps and compounds this year. Only 10 strikes were carried out in Pakistan during 2006 and 2007 combined. Many of the strikes in 2008 and 2009 can be directly traced back to al Qaeda's external operations network.

    Al Qaeda is known to run several camps for Westernized members. In October 2007, the Asia Times reported that Abu Haris al Jazairi, which is a name used by slain external operations chief Abu Sulayman al Jazairi, ran a large facility in Mir Ali in North Waziristan.

    "According to the intelligence reports, this al-Qaeda camp is planning attacks in Europe, notably the United Kingdom, Germany and France," the Asia Times reported. Jazairi ran the camp along with a French citizen known as Najib al Fala, and four Tunisians known as Omar Jalali, Bilal Abu Daghlol, Hussain al Babi, and Ahmed Taufiq.
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    So there is zero proof that these guys are terrorists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    So there is zero proof that these guys are terrorists?
    Yes, but as usual the ISI will get $100k per "terrorist" for this "information".



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    They might be terrorist pricks, but they make a good curry yeah? Within two decades England will be a Muslim country , you know that don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasquez View Post
    They might be terrorist pricks, but they make a good curry yeah? Within two decades England will be a Muslim country , you know that don't you?
    When i go over there ten years from now, I fully expect to see imams preaching at the coastlines about how all newcomers should bow down to the laws of mohammed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyrus View Post
    When i go over there ten years from now, I fully expect to see imams preaching at the coastlines about how all newcomers should bow down to the laws of mohammed.
    You've got a few factual errors there..

    Islam is not Mohammad (sw)'s laws and secondly, the slaughter of Muslim and non-Muslim civilians, which is the objective of al-Qaeda, has nothing to do with Islam.

    Also, when you come go Pakistan (97% Muslim), Egypt (90% Muslim) or Indonesia (world's largest Muslim population), you'll find that "Imams" do not preach their dogmatic views at airports, seaports, railways or "coastlines". In fact, you can only access them if you have private lectures with them or if you attend private seminars, etc.

    The views you posted above are founded on biased principles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahmud Ghaznavi View Post
    You've got a few factual errors there..

    Islam is not Mohammad (sw)'s laws and secondly, the slaughter of Muslim and non-Muslim civilians, which is the objective of al-Qaeda, has nothing to do with Islam.

    Also, when you come go Pakistan (97% Muslim), Egypt (90% Muslim) or Indonesia (world's largest Muslim population), you'll find that "Imams" do not preach their dogmatic views at airports, seaports, railways or "coastlines". In fact, you can only access them if you have private lectures with them or if you attend private seminars, etc.

    The views you posted above are founded on biased principles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Not to mention the tide will be very inconvenient.
    ... the scorching sun, seagulls, fish-mongers, Nemo, his father, Somali pirates....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahmud Ghaznavi View Post
    You've got a few factual errors there..

    Islam is not Mohammad (sw)'s laws and secondly, the slaughter of Muslim and non-Muslim civilians, which is the objective of al-Qaeda, has nothing to do with Islam.

    Also, when you come go Pakistan (97% Muslim), Egypt (90% Muslim) or Indonesia (world's largest Muslim population), you'll find that "Imams" do not preach their dogmatic views at airports, seaports, railways or "coastlines". In fact, you can only access them if you have private lectures with them or if you attend private seminars, etc.

    The views you posted above are founded on biased principles.
    Fully agree, Mahmud Ghaznavi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyrus View Post
    When i go over there ten years from now, I fully expect to see imams preaching at the coastlines about how all newcomers should bow down to the laws of mohammed.
    Then you're high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyrus View Post
    When i go over there ten years from now, I fully expect to see imams preaching at the coastlines about how all newcomers should bow down to the laws of mohammed.
    Please don't come over here.

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    Wait.. Pakistani intelligence?
    Are those the same guys that sort of missed that a Pakistani was selling nuclear weapons secrets and materials to North Korea? That sort of missed that some lunatics were planning to travel to India and stir the pot in a major city? The intelligence agency that has been accused of being not only infiltrated by, but cooperating with Al Qaida? That sort of missed numerous terror bombings inside Pakistan itself? Is it that intelligence agency, or do I have them mixed up with someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visna View Post
    Wait.. Pakistani intelligence?
    Are those the same guys that sort of missed that a Pakistani was selling nuclear weapons secrets and materials to North Korea?
    yuh AQ Khan, one of his motives was to get back at us evil Indians

    That sort of missed that some lunatics were planning to travel to India and stir the pot in a major city? The intelligence agency that has been accused of being not only infiltrated by, but cooperating with Al Qaida? That sort of missed numerous terror bombings inside Pakistan itself? Is it that intelligence agency, or do I have them mixed up with someone else?
    yeah the same ISI who supported militants in their covert war to "liberate" Kashmir.

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    I wonder what those notorious home-grown terrorism neglecting guys say, when the next cruel bombing happens in Western Europe. Probably nothing, they'll go on neglecting the facts. "Shite happens", huh?

    Sure not all Muslims in our countries are terrorists, a few are well integrated, but there are a whole lot of young, frustrated Muslims, which sympathise with Osama Bin Laden and other Muslim "heroes", there are also a heck of a lot of hate preaching mosques which indoctrinate Muslims, so that there's a never ending supply of new terrorists, which can travel quite freely, thanks to European passports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasquez View Post
    They might be terrorist pricks, but they make a good curry yeah?
    Not really, all the curry houses where I live are Indian.

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    Who gives a about England? worst part of the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    Who gives a about England? worst part of the country.
    yes wales is the best imo
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    Well this could turn out badly.

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    yes wales is the best imo
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    Don't tell me, your Scottish.

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    What the ISI forgot to mention was that they actually trained them.

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    He's not wrong fellas.


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