Number of Rounds fired during training?

[Flavius Silvanus]

Does anyone have any information on whether or not there was a standard for number of rounds fired by a soldier during training?

[Mechstra]

Many (if not most) armies of the period didn't let soldiers train with live ammunition. During the Napoleonic Wars the British army was an exception to this, although as to the number of rounds fired... God knows.

[Niccolo Maciavelli]

during the naoplionic wars, napoleon organised target shootign compettions for his entire army, and by 1809 the Young Gaurd parcticed target shooting 3 times a week. as to earlier times, and other nations, i am not sure. i wouldnt put it passed the prussians, to have someting, but would not be surprised if they did not.

[Mechstra]

Competitions are very, very different things from training with live ammunition all the time instead of simply going through the loading motions.

[Niccolo Maciavelli]

Competitions are very, very different things from training with live ammunition all the time instead of simply going through the loading motions.

Might intrest you to note that the Enlish were able to keep their Longbowmen suburb marksmen through the employment of regular competitions. Also i nver said that competitions were like training regualry with live ammunition. Live ammnunion taining as we percieve it today is a relatvidly modern thing.

[Shirkon]

The British trained mostly in volley fire. A trained regiment could load and fire 3 rounds per minute which for a musket is fast. A well trained veteran regiment could fire 4 and sometimes 5 rounds a minute.

[Furious Mental]

According to here - http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/in...combatmuskets2

- British 'Rifles' - 60 rounds and 60 blanks per man
- Prussian jägers and schützen (riflemen) - 60 rounds per man (in 1811-1812)
- British light infantry - 50 rounds and 60 blanks
- British line infantry and Prussian fusiliers (light infantry) - 30 rounds
- Austrian line infantry - 10 rounds (in 1809)
- Austrian line infantry - 6 rounds (in 1805)
- Russian infantry - 6 and less rounds

So there you go

[Flavius Silvanus]

Even today, ammunition for training is a major cost for any army. I remember when the US Army deployed the TC/Gunner tank simulators. I remember reading somewhere that they spent $20million per unit, and saved something like $4billion in ammunition costs in the first 6 months.

And by saving I mean they were able to fire $4billion worth of "virtual shells", which just wouldn't have been possible if they were using real ammunition. I think a practice sabot round cost about $1000 in the early 90's.

Are there any Eleven Bang Bang's here who could estimate the number of rounds they fired in basic and ai?

[sage2]

Even today, ammunition for training is a major cost for any army. I remember when the US Army deployed the TC/Gunner tank simulators. I remember reading somewhere that they spent $20million per unit, and saved something like $4billion in ammunition costs in the first 6 months.

And by saving I mean they were able to fire $4billion worth of "virtual shells", which just wouldn't have been possible if they were using real ammunition. I think a practice sabot round cost about $1000 in the early 90's.

Are there any Eleven Bang Bang's here who could estimate the number of rounds they fired in basic and ai?

I'm not an 11B, but I probably fired about 250 rounds of 5.56 from my M16A2 at Basic. Those with a need for remedial training fired quite a bit more -- probably twice that. Then I fired another 150 of 5.56 from an M249, and about 200 7.62mm from a M240B, and maybe 10 or 12 pratice 203 rounds. At AIT, I easily fired 650 to 700 rounds of 5.56 -- probably more. And, of course, we're taught how to actually correctly aim and fire a rifle.

I believe that, with very few exceptions, troops in the 18th century were taught to simply hold their weapon at the same level as the soldier next to them. I believe that, closing your eyes and turning your head away was pretty universal, due to the irritating tendency of the pan to spit crap in your eyes (I've had this problem with modern fire arms, even while wearing protective lenses, when action cycles).

[Mac Dhonuill nan Eilean]

I haven't noticed this but after you build a military drill centre does reloading quicken? I know you get access to troops with one chevron, maybe that's it. I find the reloading very slow but I assume it must be correct.

reloading 5 seconds quicker ,while possibly being historically incorrect, would improve the enjoyment of this game.

[astonkiller]

British 50 killed [1]
Jacobite 259 wounded [1] 1,500–2,000 killed or wounded [1][2]
154 captured [1]
222 "French" captured [1]

this is the stats for the Battle of Culloden the British fired 3 rounds a min they trained very hard for this thanks to Prince William, Duke of Cumberland