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    Default Texas demands sovereignty!! Its official!!



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    Keep in mind this ain't no freshly introduced bill. This one has passed both houses and drifted under the governors pen.

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    Basically the republicans can't stand democrats ruling the union?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkLordSeth View Post
    Basically the republicans can't stand democrats ruling the union?
    No, the state of Texas is basically telling the Federal Government "respect the Division of powers, Texas will handle the affairs the Constitution grants her authority over". Democrat, Republican, or independent a like should be happy with this decision. Perhaps the constitution will actually be respected from now on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    No, the state of Texas is basically telling the Federal Government "respect the Division of powers, Texas will handle the affairs the Constitution grants her authority over". Democrat, Republican, or independent a like should be happy with this decision. Perhaps the constitution will actually be respected from now on?
    Fat chance. Would this "respect" come out from the magical goodness that is inherent in all human beings?
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    So what difference will this make in the daily life of people in Texas, beside not getting any aid from the bailouts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseArcher View Post
    So what difference will this make in the daily life of people in Texas, beside not getting any aid from the bailouts?
    But what non-Texans don't see is that there are certain strings attached to this bailout fund. It's basically saying Here's a bunch of money, now do this and this and this.

    I think we need a new Constitution. I can't stomach the federalist form of government.
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    what mandates are they talking about? just a bunch of conservatives crying about the democrats democratically winning a fair election?
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    And so what begins? What's the point of this thread VC?
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    There are supposed to be 20 other states going through the process of passing similiar bills. Kentucky is one of them.

    What it means is that the state now reinforces and gives notice that it has , and will use it's power to ignore laws that overstep the governments authority as laid down in the constitution.

    Namely gun laws that restrict the second amendment could be declared null and void as well as a connucopia of other Bill of rights trashing laws.

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    Default Re: Texas demands sovereignty!! Its official!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Champion View Post
    There are supposed to be 20 other states going through the process of passing similiar bills. Kentucky is one of them.

    What it means is that the state now reinforces and gives notice that it has , and will use it's power to ignore laws that overstep the governments authority as laid down in the constitution.

    Namely gun laws that restrict the second amendment could be declared null and void as well as a connucopia of other Bill of rights trashing laws.
    So? It's entirely constitutional, I don't see anything wrong with this. People need to stop taking the sensationalist reports about secession seriously.
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    Muhahaha!

    My Russian comrades were correct...

    And so the implosion of America begins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behind The Mask View Post
    Muhahaha!

    My Russian comrades were correct...

    And so the implosion of America begins!

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    its what the original America was all about. in recent times its been acting like a single country than "united states"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    So? It's entirely constitutional, I don't see anything wrong with this. People need to stop taking the sensationalist reports about secession seriously.
    But he nor the rather incomplete link mention secession...its about sovereignty too quite different things when talking about a federal republic. Secession is cry baby whining nonsense while sovereignty is a valid but ultimately unwinnable argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    But he nor the rather incomplete link mention secession...its about sovereignty too quite different things when talking about a federal republic. Secession is cry baby whining nonsense while sovereignty is a valid but ultimately unwinnable argument.
    I know. I was referring to the people who would start talking about secession while the article mentions nothing of the sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Champion View Post
    There are supposed to be 20 other states going through the process of passing similiar bills. Kentucky is one of them.

    What it means is that the state now reinforces and gives notice that it has , and will use it's power to ignore laws that overstep the governments authority as laid down in the constitution.

    Namely gun laws that restrict the second amendment could be declared null and void as well as a connucopia of other Bill of rights trashing laws.
    its amazing how resiliant the US is to progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    its amazing how resiliant the US is to progress.
    Really it gives me fuzzy feelings to know that the states are taking a stand against the abuses of federal government. As it was intended so.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    its amazing how resiliant the US is to progress.
    to be fair, what is "progressive" is subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    its amazing how resiliant the US is to progress.
    You're from a nation where the government just agreed to track everything you do online and with your cell phone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    You're from a nation where the government just agreed to track everything you do online and with your cell phone.

    i havent been jailed and/or banned from the internet for downloading countless movies and music online yet..nor does it look like im going to be in the forseeable future so i guess u dont actually know what ur talking about justinian?

    glad my comment got the predictable response though from u 'patriots'.

    Quote Originally Posted by BNS View Post
    Really it gives me fuzzy feelings to know that the states are taking a stand against the abuses of federal government. As it was intended so.

    just what are these abuses, BNS (and the rest of u) ? What has obama done thats destroyed american rights more than Bush did in the previous decade? Bush certainly did a load more to ruin american rights (other than ur beloved gun laws..) than Obama has.

    but by all means, continue to strawman by refering to british camera numbers to protect private properties guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    its amazing how resiliant the US is to progress.
    Yet the only remaining super power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    You're from a nation where the government just agreed to track everything you do online and with your cell phone.

    That is technically an extremely progressive thing.

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