How to evade mortar fire!

[AlexSpartan]

This is way to evade mortar fire when using cavalry. Hope it helps!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezs4cUIRC9I
I have more tricks that I want to post latter on.

To be more descriptive since I did a crappy job on the video here it is how to do it.
Run forward as fast as you can. When the enemy mortars fires and the shells are barely on the air. Move your units backwards as fast as you can. Since the mortars aim according to your speed they aimed ahead of your cavalry. If you were to stop instead of moving back you will evade most of the bulk but since mortars aren't 100% accurate(although close to it) there is still a chance that some will hit you. If you move backwards you move farthest away from the artillery original target. Therefore having little chance of getting hit. However this does have a problem. Since you are moving backwards you are covering less ground than if you were to move fowards without stopping therefore the enemy has more time to reload before you close in. If you could keep on doing this forever then there would be no problem. But as time passes the AI becomes less synchronized and arti starts shooting at different times. Making it harder and harder to evade. With this you can evade from 2-4 mortar volleys. Once you pass the second volley you will have to do a double evade. That is move fowards. After enough shells are in the air move backwards. After the late shells beging to fire move foward once the first shells hit the ground. The more time passes on the harder it gets. I managed to evade 4 mortar volleys not more than that.

This is in no way meant to be a strategy for battle. Nor is it invincible. If you can use it for online good.

[Docbroc]

Nice vid. That is a strat i commonly use to spank mortar spammers.

[Bwaho]

yes you manage to avoid the mortar shells, but in multiplayer people tend to put stakes, infantry and other units to defend their mortar units. So once you get there you will get shot to pieces.

[Docbroc]

yes you manage to avoid the mortar shells, but in multiplayer people tend to put stakes, infantry and other units to defend their mortar units. So once you get there you will get shot to pieces.

Wrong. Any player with sense will maneuver around the steaks, can use dragoons to dismount to run through the steaks, and calv should never be the first to attack anyway, send inf in first, then calv then you win, its easy.

[AlexSpartan]

yes you manage to avoid the mortar shells, but in multiplayer people tend to put stakes, infantry and other units to defend their mortar units. So once you get there you will get shot to pieces.

Well there are ways to drive your cavalry strait into stakes to destroy the mortars. I will post it as another advanced tactics. Trust me I have a lot of them. And also have a counter for the infantry guarding.

[Arej]

Well there are ways to drive your cavalry strait into stakes to destroy the mortars. I will post it as another advanced tactics. Trust me I have a lot of them. And also have a counter for the infantry guarding.

The stakes are only 20% of your problems.

[AlexSpartan]

The stakes are only 20% of your problems.

You mean the guards? There are ways to bypass them. Here is a clue you need a sacrificial pawn. That will avoid getting your cavalry shot up. Then to bypass the guards. Well I will show it latter on.

[Arej]

Except

1) He will have line infantry (probably elites) covering the flanks.. goodbye cavalry. Or better yet, a square of stakes.
2) You dismount your dragoons.. do you think the stakes dropped there from the sky? His light infantry will eat your dragoons for breakfast.

After your infantry is "sent in first" there is no point in taking out the mortars anyways. What's he gonna do with them, kill the trees behind you?

[Docbroc]

Except

1) He will have line infantry (probably elites) covering the flanks.. goodbye cavalry. Or better yet, a square of stakes.
2) You dismount your dragoons.. do you think the stakes dropped there from the sky? His light infantry will eat your dragoons for breakfast.

After your infantry is "sent in first" there is no point in taking out the mortars anyways. What's he gonna do with them, kill the trees behind you?

1) Interesting, i dont see how riflemen or inf can shoot my calv when they are locked in melee.
2) again, they cant see while locked in melee.

And it isnt hard to get inf to the mortars, spread far and thin, casualties will be low. As soon as all inf are locked in melee, calv comes in and destroys anything in its path.

Im not going to argue with you cause i know im right. Do you know why im right? Because ive spent nights spanking mortar spammers over and over without loosing.

[RTKBarrett]

You really think a good player will concentrate mortar fire on zig zagging cav when u have a line of infantry to hit? Its good that uve found a way to dodge mortars with cav, but futile...

[Arej]

1) Err.. huh? Are you planning on running through the STAKES and the rifleman fire to melee? Good luck, hombre. And why would the elite infantry have to shoot? They'll beat your cavalry in melee.

2) How will they be locked in melee? Seriously, are you basing your scenarios on the enemy turning fire at will off and going to sleep? Or perhaps he's facing the opposite direction because he's blind? Maybe he doesn't know how to turn his troops? If that's the case, sure. But if your opponent is even half decent, you won't get into melee.

SIGH, you really lack reading comprehension. When did I say it's hard to get infantry to mortars? I said it's STUPID to target the mortars with your cavalry when your infantry are there. The mortars will no longer have any goddamn targets.

And you obviously play vs noobies seeing as they lock all their infantry in melee and have no cavalry and let you run through them and put fire at will off and go to sleep and are probably blind on top of all that.. and don't know how to set-up stakes. Because that's what they have to be for your "tactics" to work.

[Docbroc]

1) Err.. huh? Are you planning on running through the STAKES and the rifleman fire to melee? Good luck, hombre. And why would the elite infantry have to shoot? They'll beat your cavalry in melee.

2) How will they be locked in melee? Seriously, are you basing your scenarios on the enemy turning fire at will off and going to sleep? Or perhaps he's facing the opposite direction because he's blind? Maybe he doesn't know how to turn his troops? If that's the case, sure. But if your opponent is even half decent, you won't get into melee.

SIGH, you really lack reading comprehension. When did I say it's hard to get infantry to mortars? I said it's STUPID to target the mortars with your cavalry when your infantry are there. The mortars will no longer have any goddamn targets.

And you obviously play vs noobies seeing as they lock all their infantry in melee and have no cavalry and let you run through them and put fire at will off and go to sleep and are probably blind on top of all that.. and don't know how to set-up stakes. Because that's what they have to be for your "tactics" to work.

I lol'd hard at your post ! my lord!

Post edited. Do not insult other posters, no matter what. - Thanatos

[Arej]

Yep, another internez battle won =). That's all you can say to refute my arguments.. GG, mate!

[Kip]

I'll keep it in mind next time I fight an army with zero non-mortars

[AlexSpartan]

I'll keep it in mind next time I fight an army with zero non-mortars

My point was not to show that this is a realistic situation on an online game. But to instead show the way to evade mortar fire. But you can use your imagination to figure out how it can be used online. I can spell it out for you if you want.

[Kip]

My point was not to show that this is a realistic situation on an online game. But to instead show the way to evade mortar fire. But you can use your imagination to figure out how it can be used online. I can spell it out for you if you want.

I was just making a joke mate

I do like your technique there, but its too much micromanagement for me, personally. Anybody worth their nuts wouldn't leave mortars/artillery unguarded, so all that fancy footwork would net you a lot of dead cavalry anyways... but if someone did leave their mortars unguarded, you'd definitely be able to kick their ass

[AlexSpartan]

I was just making a joke mate

I do like your technique there, but its too much micromanagement for me, personally. Anybody worth their nuts wouldn't leave mortars/artillery unguarded, so all that fancy footwork would net you a lot of dead cavalry anyways... but if someone did leave their mortars unguarded, you'd definitely be able to kick their ass

I agree with you its too much micromanagement. So if you have the time I think is worth it. And the stakes I know what you are talking about. I played against those players. Because I played against those players(even though I won every time) I developed simple ways to deal with it. There is a way to totally go through stakes. I wanted to show it in an online battle however I had not have much time to play. So I will just show how to do it soon.

[Arceus]

It might work against the idiotic AI, but against a human player in multiplayer, you're dead!

Most of the time, they put stakes as well as a bunch of infantry front of the mortars, by the time you get near their mortars you'll get decimated even if the mortars doesn't get you.

Maybe if you hide your infantry, so they can only focus on your cavalry, but still, artillery has unlimited ammunition, it's going to take forever.

[AlexSpartan]

It might work against the idiotic AI, but against a human player in multiplayer, you're dead!

Most of the time, they put stakes as well as a bunch of infantry front of the mortars, by the time you get near their mortars you'll get decimated even if the mortars doesn't get you.

Maybe if you hide your infantry, so they can only focus on your cavalry, but still, artillery has unlimited ammunition, it's going to take forever.

Look this is not a strategy for the game is just a little tactic you can use for a little advantage. I'm not saying this is how you should play rather you can use this.

[Lance]

I guess the OP 's point is: if you maneuver your units in a more or less unpredictable way, it will be harder for the mortars to hit.

My idea how to stay out of mortar fire: attack, with your whole line :-)
It helps to press "run" once the mortars shoot, you can even slow down after that. But in 1 vs 1 the distances arent that big, you can easily run with your line without exhausting your units too much.

This "tactic" is only useful for some additional micromanagement to save your general or other cav units, which are were susceptible to mortar fire.

Cheers, Lance