Checking out AI... is this a typo or...?

**Cursisanafou** · April 08, 2009, 05:02 PM

I just want to figure if this is a typo or if it actually is supposed to mean something?

if you could go to the campaign_ai_personality_junctions file with PFM..

go down to default and look for:

INTENTION_SIEGE_OFFER_SURRENDER_PROBABILITY_ON_OFFERING_SURRENDER_IF_EAST_VICTORY

now i'm not sure if that is supposed to be EAST, or something happened and it was actually supposed to be EASY...

I've done a bunch of modding so it (though incredibly unlikely) could have been me... or whether it came like that.

I don't know if this would actually effect anything as i've never been offered surrender ever... and never had anyone accept surrender.

So if you would kindly look up this bit of information in your patch.pack file it would be appreciated. Thanks.

**just** · April 08, 2009, 05:33 PM

Should be a typo.
The other related values are:
INTENTION_SIEGE_OFFER_SURRENDER_PROBABILITY_ON_OFFERING_SURRENDER_IF_LIKELY_BAD_DEFEAT
INTENTION_SIEGE_OFFER_SURRENDER_PROBABILITY_ON_OFFERING_SURRENDER_IF_LIKELY_DEFEAT
INTENTION_SIEGE_OFFER_SURRENDER_PROBABILITY_ON_OFFERING_SURRENDER_IF_LIKELY_DRAW
INTENTION_SIEGE_OFFER_SURRENDER_PROBABILITY_ON_OFFERING_SURRENDER_IF_LIKELY_EAST_VICTORY
INTENTION_SIEGE_OFFER_SURRENDER_PROBABILITY_ON_OFFERING_SURRENDER_IF_LIKELY_VICTORY

But don't fix the typo, it is read by the game like it is.

**Cursisanafou** · April 08, 2009, 05:56 PM

Are you sure it reads it like that?

I added a ARMY_REPLENISH to the other AI file, it didn't work.. but it didn't crash the game... but if i had made a mistake somewhere else in the database files (such as effects) the game would crash.... i suppose i could "fix" the typo and see if the game broke...

None of those values seem to work anyways so there is not really much point in fixing it if it is a typo....

But it does seem kind of sloppy.

**occer** · April 08, 2009, 05:58 PM

Please tell me changing this setting, at least on

INTENTION_SIEGE_OFFER_SURRENDER_PROBABILITY_ON_OFFERING_SURRENDER_IF_LIKELY_EAST_VICTORY

Actually makes them surrender?

EDIT: I misread the setting, I thought the BAD DEFEAT is for them, and not for you. It's the other way round I think.

**Cursisanafou** · April 08, 2009, 06:00 PM

I haven't editted those values at all.. since surrender seems to be bugged.

But i read it as them offering surrender to you, or more likely other AI, in a siege situation.... possibly has nothing to do with you sieging them.

Although i could put them all to 100 and see if i can get them to surrender when they outnumber me by a large amount..

**occer** · April 08, 2009, 06:03 PM

Ahh.

**Cursisanafou** · April 08, 2009, 06:06 PM

of course i could be completely wrong and they got it backwards or something... i mean they let EAST instead of EASY slip through the cracks... along with a ton of other

..

**spanish_emperor** · April 09, 2009, 01:53 AM

interesting. but yeah CA have let a lot of crap in this and previous games. i would like to examine the work conditions...i reckon it would fall behind standards.

**alpaca** · April 09, 2009, 05:09 AM

Yeah it's a typo. The game also has three different spellings for the word "maintenance"

**Hazbones** · April 09, 2009, 07:57 AM

So has anyone tested this to see if fixing the typo will improve anything?

"Although i could put them all to 100 and see if i can get them to surrender when they outnumber me by a large amount.. "

So I assume there is a "siege probability" table or setting somewhere? If there is, are you able to adjust it to see if it affects the surrender offer?

**Cursisanafou** · April 09, 2009, 09:46 AM

I personally don't think fixing the typo will improve anything... simply because there is never the case of offering surrender from the AI and all cases of offering it to the AI gets refused.