Two (or four) Tibetans sentenced to death

[Arto]

China has sentenced two men to death for deadly arson attacks during an uprising in Tibet a year ago.
These are the first definitive death sentences relating to the widespread riots in Lhasa last March.
The Chinese government says about 20 people were killed during the unrest while exiled Tibetan circles put the figure at more than 200.
Hundreds of people were arrested as a result of the riots and several have already received long jail terms.
Different versions
The two men sentenced to death played a part in starting fires which resulted in seven deaths and the destruction of five shops in Lhasa, Chinese state media report.


The Lhasa Municipal Intermediate People's Court also sentenced three other people in connection with the fires.
Two were given suspended death sentences - which are usually commuted to life imprisonment - and another was sentenced to life.
It is clear that Tibetans attacked Chinese civilians, shops and property during the unrest last March but beyond that, versions of what happened differ widely.
The Chinese government says 18 civilians and a policeman were killed by rioters.
But the exiled Tibetan government insists more than 200 Tibetans were killed by Chinese security forces.
Beijing claims the protests were part of a violent campaign to overthrow Chinese rule in Tibet and sabotage the Beijing Olympics.
China has ruled Tibet since 1951, after sending troops to the Himalayan region the previous year.

Here's the other source

Beijing, Apr 8 (PTI) In the harshest sentences yet, a Chinese court today sentenced to death four Tibetans and another to life-term for igniting deadly fires in the worst anti-government riots in Lhasa since 1989.
While the Lhasa Municipal Intermediate People's Court sentenced four people to death, it gave a two-year reprieve to two of the convicts.

Another person found guilty of starting the fatal fires in March last year was given life-term, the official Xinhua news agency reported from the Tibetan capital, Lhasa.

The five were tried in three separate arson cases, in which altogether seven civilians were killed and five shops torched in Lhasa.

Another arson case is still under trial, in which five civilians were killed and a shop burnt down.

China has blamed pro-Dalai Lama "rioters" for the death of 21 people. However, the exiled Tibetan government headed by the Dalai Lama has claimed that over 200 Tibetans were killed in China's harsh crackdown.

Beijing claims the protests were part of a plot by the Dalai Lama and his supporters to throw off Chinese rule in Tibet and sabotage the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

In February, Xinhua reported that Chinese authorities had handed down court sentences ranging from three years to life in prison to a total of 76 people over the March riots. PTI

[Fluttershy]

I have a hard time faulting china here if these rioters caused deaths by starting those fires

[cottontail]

What, am I supposed to support those Tibetans? The article says it iself, they lit deadly fires. "Deadly" usely means death is involved. Good for China for dealing with nutty rioters.

[Exarch]

serves them right, the ers

[bomberboy]

Well at least they were punished but I'm worried that the "Free Tibet" people will start to attack China in this thread.

Edit: I don't believe in the death penalty.

[Homeros]

If they did caused those fires they should be prosecuted, but the Chinese state media doesn't have a good record reporting independently, so I'm not convinced.

[Exarch]

Well at least they were punished but I'm worried that the "Free Tibet" people will start to attack China in this thread.

Edit: I don't believe in the death penalty.

i'm sure these "free tibet" ppl would think differenly if they were the ones on fire; burn wounds are amongst the worst i've ever seen and are a real to treat

[bomberboy]

i'm sure these "free tibet" ppl would think differenly if they were the ones on fire; burn wounds are amongst the worst i've ever seen and are a real to treat

Yeah they are horrible really horrible.

[Mithie]

Son of a ! The goddamn commies are persecuting freedom fighters again.

[Khannis]

They may well be "freedom fighters".

People die in freedom fights, y'know.

[Zephyrus]

Here's the other source

How does this impact my daily routine again?

They may well be "freedom fighters".

People die in freedom fights, y'know.

I thought the Dalai Llama banned masculinity from Tibet a long time ago...

[justicar5]

if they started deadly fires, then it's murder so good riddance.

[Khannis]

No offense, but I think some people don't understand the relativism of moral values, to different individuals and different cultures.

There's no such thing as: MURDER = EVIL.

[justicar5]

No offense, but I think some people don't understand the relativism of moral values, to different individuals and different cultures.

There's no such thing as: MURDER = EVIL.

societies have to make a value judgement admittedly. Situations where murder is acceptable (self defense usually) or encouraged (war, execution)
but all functioning societies I can think of have murder = BAD at the core of the legal code.

[Trey]

No offense, but I think some people don't understand the relativism of moral values, to different individuals and different cultures.

There's no such thing as: MURDER = EVIL.

Total moral relativism. The one thing most can agree is a joke.
P.S. If they can prove the fires killed people, they're murderers. So what?

[Khannis]

Total moral relativism. The one thing most can agree is a joke.
P.S. If they can prove the fires killed people, they're murderers. So what?

A joke? How so? I honestly think most people are just too indoctrinated and too afraid to be out in the open without a god or moral values, without some measure of manichaeism, or the pride that they're walking on the "right side of the line", of being "good guys".

Moralism shows weakness, there's no right nor wrong. Just actions and consequences.

[Khannis]

I'm trying to say that a lot of people who thinks penalty of that is fair and cool also thinks these Tibetans deserved their punishment for murdering people.

They were sentenced to DEATH, for causing DEATH. It's the same bloody thing!

[Zephyrus]

I'm trying to say that a lot of people who thinks penalty of that is fair and cool also thinks these Tibetans deserved their punishment for murdering people.

They were sentenced to DEATH, for causing DEATH. It's the same bloody thing!

Eye for an eye makes sense, up to a certain point.

[Khannis]

I'm not saying it doesn't, but the removal of both "eyes" is the same act, and should not be lauded or despised based on WHO did it.

[Draco Borealis]

Nobody will call this "justified act of resistence against criminal colonialist apartheid style ocupation"? Sorry wrong ocupier; I guess communist chinese security courts trials are considered fair and just now.
And ocupation of Tibet is OK as long as "Zionists" are not involved.