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    Hello, I have two problems while playing OotMM.

    1. Balrog doesn't appear. I know the requirements (Mithril Mines, turn 80) but I'm at turn 200+ now and haven't seen him. Does meeting the requirements only give you a chance he might appear sometime or should he always show up after turn 80? I play without garrison script, btw.

    2. Apparently can't deliever the One Ring in time. I needed 22 rounds to reach the Black gate but got the message I failed the mission, with all evil factions declaring war on me. Next turn Sauron appears (Ring delievered), Mordor, Rhun and Harad become allies with all other factions still hostile and the Dark Lord launching an invasion against me...
    All I did was switching the Ring from one general to another without switching Gollum as well. Could this have been the problem?

    Thanks for your help.

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    re 1)
    I play without garrison script,
    did you remove this yourself or install a submod? I just need to look at the right campaign_script before I can answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Philip II View Post
    re 1) did you remove this yourself or install a submod? I just need to look at the right campaign_script before I can answer.
    I removed it myself by deleting the part of the script as explained in the FAQ.

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    It's after turn 90 and the Balrog spawns when you build the Mithril mines, so if you have already build them you'll not get the Balrog as it's not possible to destroy the mines and then rebuild them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Philip II View Post
    It's after turn 90 and the Balrog spawns when you build the Mithril mines, so if you have already build them you'll not get the Balrog as it's not possible to destroy the mines and then rebuild them.
    Ok, I built Mithril mines too early then.

    Thanks for the help.

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    Where can Rhun recruit mercs?
    You can recruit some very nice Variag Lancers in the southern most region (the region with Silver).

    Quote Originally Posted by Talonite View Post
    Ok, I built Mithril mines too early then.

    Thanks for the help.
    You're welcome. You could just cheat by making the Balrog recruitable in Moria. There is a unique building there, so search for "stair" in EDB.
    Last edited by King Philip II; May 13, 2013 at 10:17 AM. Reason: typo

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    Where can Rhun recruit mercs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Ranger* View Post
    Where can Rhun recruit mercs?
    don't you have enough of an advantage as Rhun, thats just mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight of meh View Post
    don't you have enough of an advantage as Rhun, thats just mean...
    Especially since your regular units are better than whatever's in the Variag merc pool
    Last edited by LuckyPistol; May 13, 2013 at 10:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyPistol View Post
    Especially since your regular units are better than whatever's in the Variag merc pool
    I actually prefer the Variag Lancers to the Horse Guards. The Horse Guards have no secondary weapon animation, so they get chopped to pieces in melee. I always forget to withdraw my cavalry after cahrging when playing with cav-heavy armies.

    /KP

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Philip II View Post
    I actually prefer the Variag Lancers to the Horse Guards. The Horse Guards have no secondary weapon animation, so they get chopped to pieces in melee. I always forget to withdraw my cavalry after cahrging when playing with cav-heavy armies.

    /KP

    Seems an awful lot of trouble to cover up for your laziness forgetfulness

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    Default Re: Official 'Third Age 1.0 - 3.2 Question & Answer' Thread

    What is the Ring ancillary called? I acidentally assaulted Moria on the tuen I sieged it- wanting to kill the Balrog at his full strength- and forgot that the OoTM King had the Ring there :-(

    I am also considering a more Lore-friendly experiment whereby I give it to a spy instead and try to sneak him into Mordor in 30 years ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macilrille View Post
    What is the Ring ancillary called?
    From the EDA: one_ring

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    Ah, no Capitals. Thanks.

    Gollum stole it anyway, but my next planned target city has it as well.

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    Yep. As a rule of thumb, ancillaries don't have capitalized letters whereas traits do.

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    Default Re: Official 'Third Age 1.0 - 3.2 Question & Answer' Thread

    can i play this if i have stainless steel installed?

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    Yes, TATW is installed into a separate folder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ngugi View Post
    Yes, TATW is installed into a separate folder
    Thanks for the quick reply!

    Any suggestions on which faction would be good for a first time playing experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riuk881 View Post
    Thanks for the quick reply!

    Any suggestions on which faction would be good for a first time playing experience?
    No pro'

    For good players I would suggest High Elves or Dale and for evil I suggest Rhûn or Harad.
    Also don't start playing on VH/VH as the game encourage you too, as it will take a while to get a feeling for it and Very Hard is what it say

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    I really like Eriador as a starting faction if you are not familiar with TATW. You get Aragorn, Gandalf and some of these small guys. Hard campaign and medium battles would be my humble suggestion.

    correction: hard battle/hard campaign

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