Official 'Third Age 1.0 - 3.2 Question & Answer' Thread

[Bladvak]

Would have checked that stuff myself if only I knew how.

That's why I showed you how . Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will be fed for a lifetime.

Also, the explanations were not only for you, but for anybody else who might stumble upon this and find what he's looking for in the long description.

[Greasy Dave]

25 turns to get the ring to Imladris? Really? Is that supposed to be an impossible task - or is there something fundamental I'm missing? When I read the message from the concil I understood it to mean that I should get the ring bearer himself to Imladris. He found the ring in Mithram. So it's taken 10 turns to get him as far as Thoronburg castle - because of the "pull" of Mount Doom. It's going to take another 8 or 9 turns to get him over the river to Moria. There's no way he'll be able to do the rest of the journey in 5 turns :-(

It's my first playthrough, so not knowing what would be requested I had the ringbearer sitting on his back side for about 5 or 10 turns before the actual council request came, which is a shame. But still - the mathematics just doesn't add up and I'm wondering if I'm missing something- should I be sending a diplomat instead of the ringbearer? When I have the ringbearer activated and hover the mouse over imladris I get a red cross telling me that he can't go there (because I'm not at war with the elves...and he's a general).

If I'm doing it right - it's just going to take too long to get him there, can anyone tell me what value I need to change in what file to either reset the mission turn countdown to 0 or to make it 35 turns instead of 25 before the mission runs out?

THanks in advance

[Flinn]

use console

character_reset "name of character"

this way you can move him all the way long to Imladris in one turn, just use the command, rinse and repeat

[Withwnar]

What Flinn said. Hopefully nobody else has his name.

When I have the ringbearer activated and hover the mouse over imladris I get a red cross telling me that he can't go there (because I'm not at war with the elves...and he's a general).

From memory you only need to position him in the Imladris region (Coldfells? Trollshaws?) not at the settlement and the region is quite large; the journey is not quite as far depending which way you go (but still some distance from Mistrand).

[Greasy Dave]

Great advice thanks. I'm still not sure I'll be able to make the general region, but I'll give it a go.

I had a quick test of the console command, as a back up - and couldn't get the console up. In Skyrim I just need to press the "`"key just to the left of "1" - but pressing that does nothing in TATW. I've done a search in the forum and there's plenty of posts discussing console commands but none on actually how to bring it up. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks.

[Flinn]

I think it depends on your keybord settings, usually for me is the key with "ò", "ç" and "@" symbols in it

[Bladvak]

I had a quick test of the console command, as a back up - and couldn't get the console up. In Skyrim I just need to press the "`"key just to the left of "1" - but pressing that does nothing in TATW. I've done a search in the forum and there's plenty of posts discussing console commands but none on actually how to bring it up. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks.

The tilda key (the key with ~ and ` on it), right to the left of "1" is the key that gets the console down, on all Total War games.

IF you cannot bring the console down with that key and IF your keyboard is English, then you have a buggy installation. You should look into this and ask the fellows in the Technical Support forum about this.

[Greasy Dave]

Thanks Finn, that helped... the @ key did it.
@Bladvak. You might be right, but Finn's advice has got it working...and my experience of CA support forums is worse than bad, so I won't even think about going there. To CA, support of a bug report means a CA MAthias making sympathetic comments...............and...........that's it.

[Flinn]

Thanks Finn, that helped... the @ key did it.

One is glad to be of service

feel free to ask what you might need, we'll be happy to help if we can

[Greasy Dave]

Smeagol stole my precious!
I hadn't realised the ring could be stolen. I was ten turns from the black gate It'd already taken something like 40 to get that far from Rivendell. And the moment I step back into my own lands and send the small stack my general had been travelling with off to deal with some rebels, Smeagol strikes! Gah!

So, for future reference, how do I avoid that frustration? Travel with a spy? And is there anyway to hunt him down and get it back?

[Ngugi]

He love his precious

Each time you select the general on the strategy map there's a % risk the Ring is stolen.
This can be avoided by having the bearer in an army where he's not the main commander IIRC, or least limit the risk by set him on his course and not select him each turn unless you really need to.

Now the whole script will continue, if memory serves me right, so it will appear a couple of times, and unless you grab it, Sauron will emerge as a general.

[RobotGonzo]

Oh, thanks for the heads up. Didn't know that.

[Hugyfew]

I know this is a question on opinion, but exactly how hard is the Orcs of Gundabad widely considered? (so, you see, I'm not asking about your opinion, but of all)

[Flinn]

hard to say, unless you make a poll

as an experienced player I can say that it really depends on your playing stile, the Orcs (all of them) give the best only when you are constantly on the offence; OOG in particular need to be hasty in the begenning, if you sleep too much you'll have to fight against Eriador, Dorfs, HE and Silvans all in once

[Hugyfew]

Hasty?

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn...

And I thought...

[Wizad]

The thing with Gundabad is that the entire main part of your army is going to be all game long. You can make some Trolls and Wargs later on to compliment those units but you will never to 'upgrade' the core of your army to the next tier because there is no next tier.

The key to winning with lots of troops is by barraging your enemy with them nonstop. I wouldn't even say that the most important part is conquering cities or holding some kind of line, but rather kill every enemy combat unit. When the amount of enemy units is close to 0, you can start taking their cities without too many problems. The only settlement I would rush for is Amon Sul.

The opposite of this can be seen with Gondor, the High Elves and Isengard. All 3 of those can cut corners in the early game (recruit a low amount of units) and then start recruiting a lot when you have access to the higher tiers.

I used to play with Gunadbad like I would play with those 3 factions. I would upgrade my military buildings in Carn-Dum non stop while constructing mines and farms everywhere else, but I'm quite sure that this was a mistake. All you need is 1 place to recruit anti-cavalry units and you're set for the first 50 turns.

[Hugyfew]

How to avoid the garrison script?

I'm trying to take Thorin's Halls from the Dwarves, but they have a sizeable army there already, which would grow even more if I would besiege the settlement. Still more if I would wait for them to sally out.

It's M/M, turn 20.

[Flinn]

The only way to avoid it is to attack an enemy army that is adiacent to the settlement in question; when you do this the garrison of the settlement will enter the battlefield as reinforcements (thus no script activation).

You have to make them rout and kill as much as possible of them so that no survivors will be there after the battle and the settlement will be empty, and then you can simply occupy it.

One notice: when you take prisoners and ransom them, if the AI pays, they usually retreat into the settlement, so that you cannot occupy it immediatly, but have to siege it... soooo think carefully about ransoming/killing them (usually AI do not pay if the amount is too small or if too big)

[Hugyfew]

'Nother question!

What do command stars do?

[Flinn]

i'd like to address you here http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...on-60-Complete

you can find plenty of info about characters, traits and other interesting matters