How to add mercenaries.

[The Black Goldfish]

Hey there

I have a problem regarding adding Mercs for Third Age Total War mod



I tried adding the Dorwinion Retainers and Khand Spearmen as Mercenaries for Dale and Rhun.
I did put them into their own Unit Pools in descr_mercenaries, as below:

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pool Khand
regions Khand_province Nurn_Province
unit Persian Spearmen, exp 0 cost 490 replenish 0.04 - 0.08 max 2 initial 0 religions { catholic }

pool Dorwinion
regions Dorwinion_Province
unit Kings Huscarls, exp 0 cost 500 replenish 0.04 - 0.1 max 2 initial 0 religions { northmen }

(Persian Spearmen = Khand Spearmen
Kings Huscarls= Dorwinion Retainers)

I DID follow the "How to add Mercenaries-tutorial"
and both these units are marked as Mercenary_unit and belonging to "slave" (And Dale(Scotland) and Rhun(Venice), respectively), and have right models and so on, and even works in Custom battle

But it does NOT WORK in Campaign!!!

Whenever I try to start a new game, it just "Forgets it", and go back one menuscreen

However, was lucky enough to keep my original copy of the Descr_mercenaries, and the game works just fine with the original file, which means it is my add-ons in this file that screws up everything

So, what can I do?
Did i Forget something?

[Squid]

First of all what does your log say?

[The Black Goldfish]

This:

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19:35:02.343 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_mercenaries.txt, at line 163, column 14
Unrecognised unit name found: 'Persian Spearmen exp 0 cost 490 replenish 0.04 - 0.08 max 2 initial 0 religions { catholic }'

I don't know, I have checked the names, several times, they should have been put in correctly :/

[The Black Goldfish]

Oh, I think I did make it, Turned out I DID make a spelling error
You have my permission to facepalm at me -.-

My game now works

[=NF= Vasileios_the2nd]

Hi all. I have done everything said here, yet my mercenaries won't appear as available to hire in campaign. Seems very strange to me. I put even vanilla mercenaries in, in the exact same way vanilla game uses them, yet I can't hire them when being in the proper pool. Any ideas?

Btw, does anyone know of any other related tutorial on the subject?

[Gigantus]

Hi all. I have done everything said here, yet my mercenaries won't appear as available to hire in campaign. Seems very strange to me. I put even vanilla mercenaries in, in the exact same way vanilla game uses them, yet I can't hire them when being in the proper pool. Any ideas?

Btw, does anyone know of any other related tutorial on the subject?

If your initial pool size is zero, then it takes a while before the mercenaries become available. To test your entries, you should use a number greater then zero for the initial pool. See example:

pool Scotland
regions Highlands Lowlands
unit Mercenary Crossbowmen exp 0 cost 860 replenish 0.04 - 0.13 max 2 initial 1

Did you get any related error messages ?

[=NF= Vasileios_the2nd]

I use initial 1 or greater with no effect, as you said.
I don't get any related error messages. Only messages I take (sometimes) are these:

13:21:00.046 [script.err] [error] Script Error in HundredYearWar_0.99/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 3507, column 1
The character record Prince Gonηalo is set as faction heir but is not in the family tree.
13:21:00.046 [script.err] [error] Script Error in HundredYearWar_0.99/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 3929, column 1
The character record Prince Laureyns is set as faction heir but is not in the family tree.

But this should have nothing to do with mercenaries, right?

In my mod, I use a new campaign map and a new starting date. Could this cause the problem?
I don't use start_year/end_year in my mercenaries entries.

[=NF= Vasileios_the2nd]

Problem solved!

My descr_mercenaries was very messy. Lots of entries were still from vanilla in. Seems smthing there was preventing the mercenaries from appearing in game. I deleted everything from vanilla and voila, it worked!

Gigantus thanks for bothering mate. =)

[Gigantus]

One is glad to be of service

[Balbor]

can generals be recruited as mercs?

[Gigantus]

You can make bodyguard units recruitable, not sure if that will give you named characters (probably). So there shouldn't be a problem to make them mercenaries.

[Ishan]

We don't get named characters by recruiting mercs having attribute ,general_unit in the EDU i have checked it. It's only possible via the EDB.

[Gigantus]

Thanks for confirming that.

[Gorrrrrn]

Quick Q:

which takes priority if they differ: the EDU cost or the cost in descr_mercenaries?

[Squid]

Depends where you're recruiting them. If the unit is available for recruitment through EDB then the EDU cost, if you're talking about pure mercenary recruitment (i.e. through the mercenary recruitment window) then descr_mercenaries. That being said weapon/armour upgrades and replenishment costs are EDU based regardless of where the unit is recruited (because it occurs in a settlement).

[Gorrrrrn]

thx squid - looks like we I need to do some revision on those files to remove anomalies.

[King Siegfried]

Gonna jump in here real quick, possibly necro'ing it. So I read through the thread, so I know you can set conditions for recruiting mercs based on events and religions and whether or not they're crusading. What about religion %? Can you set it so that the mercenaries can only be recruited in a territory with 20% catholic religion?

[Ishan]

You can put the religion flag but you can't denote the percentage for that you have to do a workaround that is script a counter religion percentage based and then add it.

[Withwnar]

(Necropost, sorry, but seems a good place to ask...)

I am trying to use a mixture of "events" and "religions" in a merc recruitment line and it isn't working. Something like:

unit ... initial 1 religions { islam } crusading events { djs_no_saus_er }

The event counter is exported as explained in the OP and that part of it works perfectly (thanks Ishan ). Meaning, without the religions/crusading conditions like this...

unit ... initial 1 events { djs_no_saus_er }

...works as expected: mercs available only when I export that event counter.

But when I add in the other conditions the mercs are available as soon as that event counter is exported, regardless of the religions or crusading conditions being true or false. e.g. They are available to all religions not just islam, and available to islam regardless of being on jihad.

Without that "events" condition the religions/crusading conditions work as expected. So independently these all work fine. When combined there is a problem.

Does anyone have a solution or know if this can not work?

EDIT: BTW, I tried swapping the order by having "events" before "religions/crusading". No difference.

[Ishan]

Well if it's not working then it means that the combinations are not compatible, although in theory it should.
The only other way is to put these 2 conditions (religion + crusading) as well in the event counters in your CS script.