Switzerland

[ALFAJI]

hey
i want ask you how can i play Switzerland in empire

[The Fishman]

hey
i want ask you how can i play Switzerland in empire

There is no Switzerland faction. The region is just a blank, impassible gap in the map.

[eatme]

Ain't that a shame..But Switzerland of the time was nothing significant, so it's a trade off.

[MrMerisi]

Ain't that a shame..But Switzerland of the time was nothing significant, so it's a trade off.

The omission of Switzerland is for simple expediency but is unnecessarily done, especially considering the amateur implementation of the German principalities.

Switzerland would make for an interesting challenge, balancing the Catholic and Protestant cantons, and the German vs French speaking populace.

It's obvious that they ran out of time to implement it and the Crimean Khanate presented less of a challenge.

[fluffstalker]

The omission of Switzerland is for simple expediency but is unnecessarily done, especially considering the amateur implementation of the German principalities.

Balancing the Catholic and Protestant cantons, and the German vs French speaking populace.

Switzerland would make for an interesting challenge,
It's obvious that they ran out of time to implement it and the Crimean Khanate presented less of a challenge.

Agreed! As a half-swiss myself, I would love the idea of a small, landlocked neutral nation without any of the benefits of the Dutch or Britain, struggling to survive with hungry Hapsburg Catholics to your south and the Prussians to the north, and some of your citizens in each camp.

They should have a citizen levy system where instead of firelocks you get pikemen and light infantry, to represent the quality of the provincial milita.

It would be pretty tough to get the economy rolling though, with no access to ports until you take some of the Italian states.

[Swiss Halberdier]

Unfortunately CA didn't even included the swiss region... just blank...

I understand that it isn't a minor faction, but they should have created a region.

It's true... the swiss still sent mercenary waves to the world.

@Musthavename
Yes I found it in the pack-files too. And I saw quite a few other infos or not implemented units/region/factions in the files. They are also about a dozen "scenario battles" with names, but only three were done at release.

Because the "swiss confederation" isn't in the game whether as faction nor as region, I created my own "my_units_mod" with "Swiss Pikemen (Schweizer Pikeniere)" and "Swiss Mountain Jaegers (Schweizer Gebirgsjäger)" just for fun.

[Ebusitanus]

Not less significant than Ireland or Iceland..yet there they are. Must suck to be a Swiss, buy the game and then suddenly see that blank area there where your home is.

Mods ftw!

[bobkat]

insignificant? The swiss still had power at this time, the swiss continued their mercenary waves until 1823.

[Musthavename]

Strangely, there is a flag for the Swiss Confederation in the game files. It seems CA were originally developing it then changed their minds and chose to simply have it as an inacessible region.

There was also supposedly a "Khivan Khanate" emergent, but the area where Khiva is is in wildneress iirc (the area east of the Caspian).

[Ebusitanus]

But you have overwhelmingly important Malta instead..now you would not want to dump that since its vital for Britain:Total War.

[worm00]

But you have overwhelmingly important Malta instead..now you would not want to dump that since its vital for Britain:Total War.

Same goes for Gibraltar of course... And I think the exact title is -- correct me if I'm wrong -- "Britain TW: why everybody else sucks and we should rule the world and anyone who doesn't agree is a chauvinist".

[War&Politics]

That empty area where Switzerland is supposed to be irritates me big time when I'm playing as Austria.

[Faris ad Din]

That empty area where Switzerland is supposed to be irritates me big time when I'm playing as Austria.

William Tell got you again. '

They should have a citizen levy system where instead of firelocks you get pikemen and light infantry, to represent the quality of the provincial milita.

Now that's a pretty good idea. I wonder if ETW will/would have been generous enough to give unique Swiss militia which could very well make Switzerland into a viable independent minor faction in the campaign - which they did in real life. 120-person strength pike-armed high-morale militia would be wonderful. They ARE strategically for defense, but they are great at closing in with massed pikes too at swift speed.

[eatme]

Well I agree that it could ve been included. But so few other minor/emerging nations.

But like I pointed out, there should exist a limit of time and resources for the devs..

So the trade off was to include certain number of minor nations for release which will not neccessarily should be to the liking of every single ETW player.

But remember, the minor nations are unlockable in vanilla ETW.

As the focus was to be on the major nations, every player can associate his GP with, disregarding player's nationality and origin factor.

[Iceciro]

It's not so much that it isn't there with custom units, etc, as the fact that it's not there AT ALL.

I mean, there is a country there, right? RIGHT? 0_O

[Razor]

Ehm... I think CA did the right thing not to include Switzerland. Why? They were and are always neutral and Never got annexed or conquered or never conquered or expanded themselves. It shouldn't be a faction because you'd get historical screw ups people could find annoying.
I agree that there should be Swiss mercenary units though...

[ladiesman]

Ehm... I think CA did the right thing not to include Switzerland. Why? They were and are always neutral and Never got annexed or conquered or never conquered or expanded themselves. It shouldn't be a faction because you'd get historical screw ups people could find annoying.
I agree that there should be Swiss mercenary units though...

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Seriously?

I'm pretty sure Maratha Indians never marched on London....but.....in 1760 in my last game, they did just that.

Not only that, but the Maratha's also held much of the east coast of North America. By the end of the 18th century, North America was very much a Hindu nation.

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Total War is NOT a historical game. Once the you press the button "end turn" the first time, history flies out the window.

[Razor]

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Seriously?

I'm pretty sure Maratha Indians never marched on London....but.....in 1760 in my last game, they did just that.

Not only that, but the Maratha's also held much of the east coast of North America. By the end of the 18th century, North America was very much a Hindu nation.

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Total War is NOT a historical game. Once the you press the button "end turn" the first time, history flies out the window.

True, but CA also decided not to include nuclear technology in the research tree... The Swiss never did anything (I'm exaggerating it) to make them factionworthy. The Maratha Empire did do something that make them factionworthy.

[ladiesman]

True, but CA also decided not to include nuclear technology in the research tree... The Swiss never did anything (I'm exaggerating it) to make them factionworthy. The Maratha Empire did do something that make them factionworthy.

Well that I can understand....I was commenting more on the historical aspect.

Still.....a big, empty spot on the map is kinda dumb....

Swiss mercenaries should DEFIANTLY be in the game though. Erm, mercenaries in general should be in the game. But particularly Swiss ones.

[Davincee]

Well that I can understand....I was commenting more on the historical aspect.

Still.....a big, empty spot on the map is kinda dumb....

Swiss mercenaries should DEFIANTLY be in the game though. Erm, mercenaries in general should be in the game. But particularly Swiss ones.

they should be defiant indeed haha sorry