[EU3:IN] my Brandenburg campaign need direction...

[akinkhoo]

i am playing Brandenburg from 1399 with the goal of forming prussia in 150 years (around 1550) since i need protestant to be available first and sometime to convert. only historical ruler, advisors and generals are available so i basically start with nothing until i become prussia. i made a modification to remove my status as minor union, else it would be a boring start.


anyway i got a break when in 1404, poland invaded it's neighbouring Mazovia that happens to be part of HRE. i was actually allied to them but i also decided to warn them against invading when we became allies since i don't want to be drag into unwanted wars, unfortunately and with fortune they still attacked.

the Order of Battle:
attacker:
- poland
- lithuania
- teutonic order
60000 men 21 ship

defender:
- Mazovia
- Bohemia (emperor)
- Hungary
- Brandenburg (join a day later, strangely i was made leader)
50000 men 3 ship

my objective is to captured abit of the teutonic order so i can take their capital in the future, they are too big to vassalise in their current size and i don't want to wait for them to become prussia and then vassal them which is slow given i still need to gain a core after annex. so i will help them "diet".


my condition in germany is fine, pommernia has already being divided between me and teutonic order. but i have no manpower, especially against the likes of teutonic order and poland so i need to depend on HRE to keep the main army busy. the blitz begun will 7000 troop and 2000 cavalry marching quickly with the objective to siege prussia, i was fairly lucky to find the bohemia army has smash the order's main army that try to remove their siege in poland, i intercept the routing army and in a stoke of incredible luck destroy it in 3 days, the teutonic order is largely defenceless i manage to capture 5 territories before bohemia blow the whistle in 1407. i could not take poland with just hungary as ally so i abandon the war. i got just enough point to trade for danzig and vorpommern and Mazovia's freedom which was vassalise before we could get to it.



i have come to realise this is going to be a near impossible fight, i am not equipped to take on such odds, i am basically a little fish, over-dependent on allied strength which limit my advancement. it is not like poland will repeat the process every 5 years so there probably wouldn't be enough exploit to take the prussia capital.

and also i notice my tech is falling behind abit as my trader are POSed. i need manpower, but i am not so sure if i should expand in germany which would need me to fight the HRE or try and get my hands dirty in the italian wars and maybe steal a couple of rich territory down there and divide my army basically. becoming HRE would be a bit hard as i lack money to bribe.

i am allied to denmark, austria and after the war, hungary offer in alliance which i accepted. strangely my relations with teutonic order is still +70 something. maybe i should just wait for them to become prussia and just try and annex them.

[Ojf]

Can you diploannex HRE states?

[Ishoss]

You're the Emperor?

[Lysander13]

i have come to realise this is going to be a near impossible fight, i am not equipped to take on such odds, i am basically a little fish, over-dependent on allied strength which limit my advancement. it is not like poland will repeat the process every 5 years so there probably wouldn't be enough exploit to take the prussia capital.

and also i notice my tech is falling behind abit as my trader are POSed. i need manpower, but i am not so sure if i should expand in germany which would need me to fight the HRE or try and get my hands dirty in the italian wars and maybe steal a couple of rich territory down there and divide my army basically. becoming HRE would be a bit hard as i lack money to bribe.

i am allied to denmark, austria and after the war, hungary offer in alliance which i accepted. strangely my relations with teutonic order is still +70 something. maybe i should just wait for them to become prussia and just try and annex them.

Not impossible at all.
Especially if your starting from 1399. You definately should expand in Germany. You just have to choose the right moments to do so. If Bohemia or Austria is HRE...then maybe that's a good time to work on your economy, trade, land yourself a good ally or become Curia controller perhaps. So you can possibly have a potential target excommunicated.

Hesse becomes HRE? DOW!! And start painting German OPM's with Bradenburg colors.Use your guarantees and warnings wisely. Play the angles so to speak. You wanna annex province A..but by DoW'ing them it brings one of their big boy allies in the fight that you cannot handle. So find the weak link in province A's allies and DoW them. Keeping out of the fight the ones you cannot handle. I'd start carving out connected land in Germany first before I looked elsewhere like Italy. If MP is an issue for you. Then perhaps you should use one of your first NI's here to help you out. Though I don't think I would go that route.

How are you falling behind in tech as Bradenburg? If your trading, have decent sliders, not minting (too much), haven't expanded too much and don't own a bunch of worthless provinces that you do not have cores on. I don't see how you could be falling behind in tech to a noticeable degree.

[Carach]

Not impossible at all.
Especially if your starting from 1399. You definately should expand in Germany. You just have to choose the right moments to do so.

this.

the one state minors are lovely bits of meat to take.

but then i dont have IN, only NA; not entirely sure how much different it is (HRE more important in IN?)

u just got to be patient and wait for the opportunities to arise.

I'm always baffled when I read stuff like in the opening post. I only have EU3Compl. since a couple of days and I wonder how one can get anything done as Brandenburg, especially since the Emperor (Bohemia in 1399) will aid everyone who's being attacked. So, no getting access to the sea, no conquering Silesia (two of the missions I'm constantly given) with a country that can only support seven armies... So far, it feels more like work than like a game. I'm trying to have fun with it, I would really like to, but it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. I'm already glad I only borrowed it instead of buying it on a whim... I guess I'm not enough of an Übermensch to achieve anything more than just sitting around on my lands and letting time go by till the end of the campaign.
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perhaps try an easier country if ur a n00b

[vizi]

If you are falling behind in tech, you need to watch your inflation, bb points and when you take provinces, try to make sure you have cores on them and that they are high value provinces. Expand intelligently. Don't expand rapidly and rashly. You don't need to do that.

Also try and get traders in high value trading centers. I would also suggest trying to make peace as quickly as possible. Nothing wrong with only get one province out of a peace deal.

The game lasts what, 422 years? Take your time. By the time the game ends Germany wasn't formed yet. So you are in no rush really. Try and get ahead in tech level. A smaller, very advanced fire based army will help you deal large amounts of damage later in the game. And if you become the HRE, you can take manpower hits in battles, hits that other nations can't afford to take. Especially if you advance your tech in smart ways. I have had Morroco as the most advanced nation in the game before. Inflation management, high value provinces and trade placements.

[akinkhoo]

i am falling behind due to historic advisor so those with uni start like blitz on tech. :\

trade is not doing well. the government slider didnt' exactly start some i wanted, lol. i keep losing them to competition and even the smalled CT is full. >_<

So you are in no rush really.

until the Ming blob of doom comes to europe

[Ketzerfreund]

I'm always baffled when I read stuff like in the opening post. I only have EU3Compl. since a couple of days and I wonder how one can get anything done as Brandenburg, especially since the Emperor (Bohemia in 1399) will aid everyone who's being attacked. So, no getting access to the sea, no conquering Silesia (two of the missions I'm constantly given) with a country that can only support seven armies... So far, it feels more like work than like a game. I'm trying to have fun with it, I would really like to, but it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. I'm already glad I only borrowed it instead of buying it on a whim... I guess I'm not enough of an Übermensch to achieve anything more than just sitting around on my lands and letting time go by till the end of the campaign.
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[Ishoss]

Wait untill the Bohemian king dies. Srsly.

Then pray to the lord that either you or a minor becomes HRE.