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    Reuters - U.S. President Barack Obama urged the European Union on Sunday to accept Turkey as a full member of the 27-nation bloc, a move immediately rejected by France’s Nicolas Sarkozy.



    The disagreement was a rare outward sign of divergence at an EU-U.S. summit stage-managed to relaunch transatlantic ties that were strained under the Bush administration and which both sides are now eager to mend.



    “The United States and Europe must approach Muslims as our friends, neighbours and partners in fighting injustice, intolerance and violence, forging a relationship based on mutual respect and mutual interests,” Obama told the summit.



    “Moving forward towards Turkish membership in the EU would be an important signal of your (EU) commitment to this agenda and ensure that we continue to anchor Turkey firmly in Europe,” he told EU leaders.



    Turkey has long been seeking to join the bloc, and Obama’s comments were a reaffirmation of U.S. support for that goal.



    But there is resistance among EU states such as Germany and France to its membership, including among ruling conservatives.



    Sarkozy said it was up to the EU member states to decide on Turkish entry and reiterated his opposition. “I have always been opposed to this entry,” he told France’s TF1 television.



    “I still am and I think I can say that the immense majority of member states shares the position of France,” he said.



    “Turkey is a very great country, an ally of Europe, an ally of the United States. It will stay a privileged partner. My position hasn’t changed and it won’t change,” he said.



    Turkish entry talks with the EU have been held up by European concerns over human rights, a perceived lack of progress on reforms, and by a long territorial dispute with EU member Cyprus. Membership is seen many years off at best.

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    I love Sarko. Pocket man, yet man.

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    Obama meddling in European affairs? How can this be? He is more dismissive of European influence than Bush ever dreamt of being.

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    Why is the President of the UNITED STATES telling the EUROPEAN UNION who to accept? It's ridiculous. WTF Obama? There are things at home you need to worry about, why does he care who EU accepts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Why is the President of the UNITED STATES telling the EUROPEAN UNION who to accept? It's ridiculous. WTF Obama? There are things at home you need to worry about, why does he care who EU accepts?
    Well, he can always say whayever he wants, it's his right to speak, and I see clearly why btw (Turkey=NATO)...
    Though, all he's achieving by doing that, is getting EU against him, and it's not a smart move. He seems to need Europeans sooooo badly, and he's here to correct Bush Junior's mistakes, not to make new ones, no?

    Anyway, Turkey in Europe: thanks but no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draksen View Post
    Well, he can always say whayever he wants, it's his right to speak, and I see clearly why btw (Turkey=NATO)...
    Though, all he's achieving by doing that, is getting EU against him, and it's not a smart move. He seems to need Europeans sooooo badly, and he's here to correct Bush Junior's mistakes, not to make new ones, no?

    Anyway, Turkey in Europe: thanks but no thanks.
    All he is doing is pushing the EU closer to Russia - look at Italy France & Germany they seem to agree more with the Russians then they do with the US - The UK are the only ones agreeing with the US at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManKinD View Post
    Italy France & Germany they seem to agree more with the Russians then they do with the US
    Russia is our direct neighbourg, and Europe usually does no approve what the USA is doing or was doing in the past.

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    The UK are the only ones agreeing with the US at the moment
    LOL, UK... that state still hasnt decided if they want to be part of the USA or part of Europe. Real troublemakers, nothing more. Glad we have a Germany-France axis in Europe, counting on the rosbifs would only slow us down.
    And as they are still trying to know which country they hate the most, France or Germany
    Oh if you americans want to "buy" them, they are yours. Discount price.
    Last edited by Draksen; April 05, 2009 at 10:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Why is the President of the UNITED STATES telling the EUROPEAN UNION who to accept? It's ridiculous. WTF Obama? There are things at home you need to worry about, why does he care who EU accepts?
    Well to be fair here what right did europe have to comment on things like Iraq? It didnt involve them beyond the countries that agreed. So President Obama has every right to express his view that Turkey should be a full member of EU, even if its a view that myself disagree with.

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    Obama has every right to tell his personal views on the matter, but what I'm surprised is that he doesn't seem to know that EU simply cannot accept every desirable candinate just like that. There are economical, political and social standards that must be met, which Turkey currently do not hold. It's in the hand of Turkey should they enter EU next decade, after that, or ever. EU is not an union based on charity. Obama do come off with same attitude U.S.A have had since the end of WW2. When does your politicians realise that the world has changed quite a bit from the days of cold war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Why is the President of the UNITED STATES telling the EUROPEAN UNION who to accept? It's ridiculous. WTF Obama? There are things at home you need to worry about, why does he care who EU accepts?
    because what america wants, america gets, usually

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    Yeah EU should also support the enter of Mexico in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    Yeah EU should also support the enter of Mexico in the USA.
    Obama failed epically here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    Yeah EU should also support the enter of Mexico in the USA.
    If 1848 US wasn't racist it would be in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    If 1848 US wasn't racist it would be in the US.
    Yep, very true. And we wouldn't be having the problems which are going on right now in Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    Yeah EU should also support the enter of Mexico in the USA.
    well, one is country, one is a loose union of countries. slightly different.

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    corrected it for ya.

    we just do it on a greater scale, which is understandable given that we are still the superpower of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    Yeah EU should also support the enter of Mexico in the USA.
    Best analogy I've heard yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberias View Post
    Best analogy I've heard yet
    How is that a good analogy???

    Turkey wants to be part of the EU, Mexico doesn't want to join the US. May as well say, "How about Russia join China"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    How is that a good analogy???

    Turkey wants to be part of the EU, Mexico doesn't want to join the US. May as well say, "How about Russia join China"
    Exactly it doesn’t make sense hence my comment, try to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Why is the President of the UNITED STATES telling the EUROPEAN UNION who to accept? It's ridiculous. WTF Obama? There are things at home you need to worry about, why does he care who EU accepts?
    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    Yeah EU should also support the enter of Mexico in the USA.
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    Sarkozy for EU President!

    Also Obama can just off, who is he to tell us what to do? We didn't elect you idiot you don't decide what we do.
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    Sarkozy for EU President!

    Also Obama can just off, who is he to tell us what to do? We didn't elect you idiot you don't decide what we do.

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