Unit size increase?

[Horion]

Hi, i got M2:TW since yesterday, and i was wondering how to get bigger unit sizes? i have changed it from normal to huge/large? in the options menu.
but 120 still seems small to me. is there a way to make it even bigger?

Thnx!

[Mr.Excitement]

Uhm, if you want to make your computer explode, I would recommend keeping it small.

[Horion]

Uhm, if you want to make your computer explode, I would recommend keeping it small.

well my computer can handle the largest size already without any problems.
i just want to see bigger battles:p
so if some1 knows how to increase the unit size plz tell me

[axnsan]

take the file i attached at the end of the post, and put it in m2tw/data

open it and go to any unit's entry, it will look like this :

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

type Mailed Knights
dictionary Mailed_Knights ; Mailed Knights
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier Mailed_Knights, 32, 0, 1
mount heavy horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, knight
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 3, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 10, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 11, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 5, 4, metal
;stat_armour_ex 5, 7, 0, 0, 5, 4, 4, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 0, -2, -4, 0
stat_mental 9, low, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 680, 250, 120, 95, 680, 4, 170
armour_ug_levels 2, 3
armour_ug_models Mailed_Knights, Mailed_Knights_ug1
ownership england, scotland, france, hre, spain, portugal, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, slave, normans
era 0 england, scotland, france, hre, spain, portugal, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily,
era 1 england, scotland, france, hre, spain, portugal, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily,
era 2 scotland
;unit_info 10, 0, 14

the bolded number is the number of soldiers in normal unit size. it is doubled in huge unit size.
modify it to any number you want, save and close.

now, go to m2tw folder, right click medieval2.preference.cfg , click properties, uncheck read-only and apply.
now open it, and add the following to the front of it:

[io]
file_first = 1

[log]
to = logs/system.log.txt
level = * trace

save,close,right click > properties > check read-only > apply > launch game

[Horion]

ah oke, thnx allot ill try it out
do i have to change that bolded number for every unit in that file?

[axnsan]

yes. for every unit you want to change the unit size

[axnsan]

also for artilery units, the number after soldier number shows the number of artillery pieces per unit

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

type EE Ballista
dictionary EE_Ballista ; Ballista
category siege
class missile
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_missile
banner holy crusade
soldier EE_Ballista_Crew, 16, 2, 1
engine ballista
attributes sea_faring, hardy, can_withdraw, artillery
formation 1.5, 1.5, 3, 3, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 6, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, artillery_mechanical, piercing, knife, 25, 1.8
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 55, 3, ballista, 180, 50, siege_missile, artillery_mechanical, piercing, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr ap, bp, launching
stat_pri_armour 4, 4, 0, leather
;stat_armour_ex 4, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0, leather
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental 9, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 370, 150, 90, 70, 370, 4, 90
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models EE_Ballista_Crew
ownership eastern_european
era 0 eastern_european
era 1 eastern_european
;unit_info 6, 0, 8

[Horion]

ah oke, will take me a while then
and does this mess up my multiplayer units? or will they stay the normal size?

[axnsan]

i never played multiplayer so i don't really know, but my guess is:
you aren't allow to play multiplayer with modded files
or
the default files are stored somewhere on the multiplayer server and are used no matter the game file status

[Horion]

hmz oke
but now iv edited the files my game wont start :S i can run the expansion packs.
but normal m2tw wont start...

[axnsan]

for it to work you should have m2tw installed without the kingdom expansions, otherwise it will read the kingdom files and up your game

i have clean m2tw installed in a folder and m2tw+kingdoms+any other mods in another folder

and also try this:
go to the medieval2.preference.cfg file you just edited, and change level = * trace to level = * error
now try to start your game again and check your system.log file in the logs folder, and copy it here

[Horion]

ah, so the expansion is messing with this...hmz damn then i have no use for this >_< @#$%!

[axnsan]

you could,as i said, do 2 separate installs
- one with only vannila m2tw
- another with m2tw,kingdoms and all the you wanna throw at your game

[erestor629]

Just out curiosity, is there a max unit size?

E.g. In normal settings, by using your example, the "soldier Mailed_Knights, 32, 0, 1" currently has 32 in normal settings, but is there a max number which we're able to change it to? E.g. no more than 100?

I was thinking about giving the Silvan Spear units in The Third Age a few more, since the Elves lack "decent" units other than archers until late-game and Ents.

[PapaRosario]

Just out curiosity, is there a max unit size?

E.g. In normal settings, by using your example, the "soldier Mailed_Knights, 32, 0, 1" currently has 32 in normal settings, but is there a max number which we're able to change it to? E.g. no more than 100?

I was thinking about giving the Silvan Spear units in The Third Age a few more, since the Elves lack "decent" units other than archers until late-game and Ents.

Yes, 100 is the max on the kingdoms exe. 60 is the max on the medieval2 exe. You multiply by 2.5 for huge unit size, so this translates to 250 for Kingdoms and 150 for Vanilla. There is also a hardcoded max of 3 officers per unit. So the final max unit size should be 253/153 I think.