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    PITTSBURGH — A gunman wearing a bulletproof vest and "lying in wait" opened fire on officers responding to a domestic disturbance call Saturday, killing three of them and turning a quiet Pittsburgh street into a battlefield, police said.
    Police Chief Nate Harper said the motive for the shooting isn't clear, but friends said the gunman recently had been upset about losing his job and feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.
    Richard Poplawski, 23, met officers at the doorway and shot two of them in the head immediately, Harper said. An officer who tried to help the two also was killed.
    Poplawski, armed with an assault rifle and two other guns, then held police at bay for four hours as the fallen officers were left bleeding nearby, their colleagues unable to reach them, according to police and witnesses. More than 100 rounds were fired by the SWAT teams and Poplawski, Harper said.
    The three slain officers were Eric Kelly, 41, Stephen Mayhle, 29, and Paul Sciullo III, 37. Kelly had been on the force for 14 years, Mayhle and Sciullo for two years each. Another officer, Timothy McManaway, was shot in the hand and a fifth broke his leg on a fence.
    Poplawski had gunshot wounds in his legs but was otherwise unharmed because he was wearing a bulletproof vest, Harper said. He was charged with three counts of homicide, aggravated assault and a weapons violation.
    The shooting occurred just two weeks after four police officers were fatally shot in Oakland, Calif., in the deadliest day for U.S. law enforcement since Sept. 11, 2001. The officers were the first Pittsburgh city officers to die in the line of duty in 18 years.
    "This is a solemn day and it's a very sad day in the city of Pittsburgh," Harper said. "We've seen this kind of violence happen in California. We never would think this kind of violence would happen in the city of Pittsburgh."
    At 7 a.m., Sciullo and Mayhle responded to a 911 call from Poplawski's mother, who remained holed up in the basement during the entire dispute and escaped unharmed, Harper said.
    When they arrived at the home, Sciullo was immediately shot in the head. Mayhle, who was right behind him, was also shot in the head.
    "It appears he was lying in wait for the officers," Harper said.
    Kelly, who was on his way home after completing his overnight shift when he heard the call for help, rushed to the scene and was killed trying to help Sciullo and Mayhle, Harper said. SWAT teams and other officers arrived and were immediately fired on as well.
    Don Sand, who lives across the street from Poplawski, said he was woken up by the sound of gunfire. Hunkering down behind a wall in his home, he saw the first two officers go down and then saw Kelly get shot.
    "They couldn't get the scene secure enough to get to them. They were just lying there bleeding," Sand said. "By the time they secured the scene enough to get to them it was way too late."
    Deputy Chief Paul Donaldson, who lives nearby, was one of the first officers to arrive. He saw Mayhle by a bush to the right of the door; Kelly was in the street and McManaway, his hand injured, was kneeling beside him, yelling that Kelly needed help.
    Donaldson suggested using a police van to get them. They draped a bulletproof vest on the window to protect the driver and several officers got into the van to get Kelly and McManaway.
    During this time, Poplawski was somehow distracted, Donaldson said.
    "We were fortunate that he didn't fire on us. I don't know why he was distracted, but he apparently didn't see us coming down to get them," he said. "It could have been worse."
    Poplawski had feared "the Obama gun ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed upon," said Edward Perkovic, his best friend.
    Perkovic, 22, said he got a call at work from him in which he said, "Eddie, I am going to die today. ... Tell your family I love them and I love you."
    Perkovic said: "I heard gunshots and he hung up. ... He sounded like he was in pain, like he got shot."
    Poplawski had once tried to join the Marines, but was kicked out of boot camp after throwing a food tray at a drill sergeant, Perkovic said.
    Another longtime friend, Aaron Vire, said Poplawski feared that President Barack Obama was going to take away his rights, though he said he "wasn't violently against Obama."
    Vire, 23, said Poplawski once had an Internet talk show but that it wasn't successful. He said Poplawski owned an AK-47 rifle and several powerful handguns, including a .357 Magnum.
    Obama has said he respects Americans' constitutional right to bear arms, but that he favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he would approve some curbs on assault and concealed weapons.
    Poplawski had been laid off from his job at a glass factory earlier this year, said another friend, Joe DiMarco. DiMarco said he didn't know the name of the company, but knew his friend had been upset about it.
    The last Pittsburgh police officers killed in the line of duty were Officers Thomas L. Herron and Joseph J. Grill, according to a Web site that tracks police killings. They died after their patrol car collided with another vehicle while chasing a stolen car on March 6, 1991.
    In 1995, an off-duty officer was shot with his own gun after he confronted a group of teenagers about graffiti. Tests later showed the officer had been drinking.
    According to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, 133 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty in 2008, a 27 percent decrease from year before and the lowest annual total since 1960.
    Poplawski had often fought with neighbors and had even gotten into fist fights with a couple, Sand said.
    "This is a relatively really quiet neighborhood except for him," Sand said. "He was just one of those kids that we knew to stay clear from."
    Harper confirmed police had responded to calls from the Poplawski house several times but said the incidents were still being investigated.
    Rob Gift, 45, who lives a block away, said the well-kept single-family houses with manicured lawns are home to many police officers, firefighters, paramedics and other city workers.
    "It's just a very quiet neighborhood," Gift said.
    My heart goes out to the officers family and friends. This has been a tough year for Law Enforcement.. We all need to show our support.
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    Sat 4 April: Gunman kills three policemen in Pittsburgh before being wounded and captured
    Fri 3 April: Gunman kills 13 people at an immigration centre in Binghamton, New York state, then apparently shoots himself
    Sun 29 March: Gunman kills seven elderly residents and a nurse at a nursing home in Carthage, North Carolina, then is shot and wounded himself
    Sun 29 March: Man kills five relatives and himself in Santa Clara, California

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadratus View Post
    http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...urgh.Shooting/

    My heart goes out to the officers family and friends. This has been a tough year for Law Enforcement.. We all need to show our support.
    Maybe Greg Gutfeld can make some really inappropriate jokes about it.

    Seriously though, it's a sad thing. This thread will inevitably turn into another gun control debate. And again, many will argue against gun control. But honestly, what support can you show other than being in favour of making it more difficult for people to kill cops?
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    Wow, thanks for hijacking the thread.

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    Maybe Greg Gutfeld can make some really inappropriate jokes about it.
    Wtf does that have to do with this thread? Are you attacking me because I have Greg Gutfeld as my avatar and support his show?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Seriously though, it's a sad thing. This thread will inevitably turn into another gun control debate. And again, many will argue against gun control. But honestly, what support can you show other than being in favour of making it more difficult for people to kill cops?
    What support I show is my respect for the officers in uniform who risk there lifes everyday so YOU can sleep peacefully at night. That's the support I show..

    The thread won't turn into a gun control thread, it's about the 3 officers who died...

    On a side note, I was never against banning weapons, it's everyone's right to bare them. I don't know why you think I'm anti gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadratus View Post
    Wtf does that have to do with this thread? Are you attacking me because I have Greg Gutfeld as my avatar and support his show?
    Actually I think it's double standards to on one hand expect people to be supportive, thoughtful, respectful and all that. To pretend sincerity, when you have someone like Gutfeld in your avatar who pretty much is the opposite of that. But that's just my opinion, let's not turn this into a greg gutfeld hateparade any further.

    What support I show is my respect for the officers in uniform who risk there lifes everyday so YOU can sleep peacefully at night. That's the support I show..
    A nice thought, but nothing more. The rate at which cops are dying requires measures to be taken. I have respect for the police too (to a limited extent, not all police units are equally deserving of respect), but IMO there's a crapload of room for improvement in the US as far as police officer safety is concerned.
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    2 shootings in a row? Only in america.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadyrome View Post
    2 shootings in a row? Only in america.
    Is that really necessary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadyrome View Post
    2 shootings in a row? Only in america.
    I am so tired of seeing crap like that posted. Only in FRANCE would 8 city officials get gunned down in their offices.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...11#post4874111

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    Yeah, lets ban guns. Criminals will thank you, they'll feel much safer if you do that.

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    this guy was a libertarian who was "afraid obama would take his guns away"

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    Hey guys, there has already been a similar thread that has devolved into a debate about gun control, we don't need two such threads.

    Take it easy,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaigidel View Post
    this guy was a libertarian who was "afraid obama would take his guns away"
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    just shows anyone with libertarian ideals is dangerous and should be monitored, and not allowed to own weapons of any kind.

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    Another update to the sig

    20,284 Officers Lost in the Line of Duty as of 2010-12 this month- 124 this year
    Red: Suspect inflicted: Blue Accident
    Officer Christopher A Wilson: End of Watch 10/27/10: San Diego PD, CA
    Lt. Jose A Cordova Montaez: End of Watch 10/26/10: Pureto Rico PD
    Cpt. George Green: End of Watch 10/26/10: Oklahoma Highway PD
    Deputy Sheriff Odelle McDuffle Jr. 10/25/10: Liberty Country SD, Texas
    Officer John Abraham: End of Watch 10/25/10: Teaneck PD New Jersey
    Sgt. Timothy Prunty: End of Watch 10/24/10: Shreveport PD. Louisiana












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    Quote Originally Posted by Gertrudius! View Post
    Hey guys, there has already been a similar thread that has devolved into a debate about gun control, we don't need two such threads.

    Take it easy,
    Dude the thread isn't about gun control - It's about and devoted to the THREE OFFICERS WHO DIED in the line of duty.... There is nothing in this thread about gun control, so don't bring it up.

    My God one officer already finished his shift and was headed home to his family when he heard the call, he didn't even make it home .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadratus View Post
    Dude the thread isn't about gun control - It's about and devoted to the THREE OFFICERS WHO DIED in the line of duty.. My God one officer already finished his shift and was headed home to his family when he heard the call, he didn't even make it home ... There is nothing in this thread about gun control, so don't bring it up.
    There have been several posts making reference to the issue, and as such I asked that it NOT devolve into another thread about it. I was trying to prevent further disruption of your thread, but it seems you just desire to misinterpret what I say and throw capitalized words at me in order to make me realize the import of the OP, which I already realized and tried to tacitly support by a discouragement of continuing comments on an alternative subject.

    Take it easy,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaigidel View Post
    just shows anyone with libertarian ideals is dangerous and should be monitored, and not allowed to own weapons of any kind.
    Chaigidel most arn't like that. Yes some are idiots but so are some liberals and conservatives.

    On tpic this is just outrageous my heart goes out to their families.
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    Does anyone know exactly why the police went to the man's house.

    All I know so far is that it was for a domestic disturbance.

    It seems to be very vague. They arent very forthcoming right now about why they came there.

    For one he was only charged for killing the police officers. You would think if he had committed some other crime warranting them coming to his house they would have charged him with that as well.

    Policemen's lives are no more valuable than an immigrants.

    Policemen are doing their job to put themselves in between the criminal and the law abiding citizen. Dying is an accepted risk for their profession.

    This firefight was far more respectable than the Binghamton one. At least in this shooting the man took on armed officers instead of helpless people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Champion View Post
    Does anyone know exactly why the police went to the man's house.

    All I know so far is that it was for a domestic disturbance.

    It seems to be very vague. They arent very forthcoming right now about why they came there.

    For one he was only charged for killing the police officers. You would think if he had committed some other crime warranting them coming to his house they would have charged him with that as well.
    I watched the press conference, the shooter was fighting with his mom at their house, and the mom called the police as a domestic disturbance.

    I'll update the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Champion View Post
    Does anyone know exactly why the police went to the man's house.

    All I know so far is that it was for a domestic disturbance.

    It seems to be very vague. They arent very forthcoming right now about why they came there.

    For one he was only charged for killing the police officers. You would think if he had committed some other crime warranting them coming to his house they would have charged him with that as well.

    Policemen's lives are no more valuable than an immigrants.

    Policemen are doing their job to put themselves in between the criminal and the law abiding citizen. Dying is an accepted risk for their profession.

    This firefight was far more respectable than the Binghamton one. At least in this shooting the man took on armed officers instead of helpless people.

    Yes, it's so much more respectable to wait for some cops to come through a door so you can mow them down with an assault rifle.
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