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    Default The G20 moves the world a step closer to a global currency

    The world is a step closer to a global currency, backed by a global central bank, running monetary policy for all humanity.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...-currency.html

    A single clause in Point 19 of the communiqué issued by the G20 leaders amounts to revolution in the global financial order.
    "We have agreed to support a general SDR allocation which will inject $250bn (£170bn) into the world economy and increase global liquidity," it said. SDRs are Special Drawing Rights, a synthetic paper currency issued by the International Monetary Fund that has lain dormant for half a century.



    In effect, the G20 leaders have activated the IMF's power to create money and begin global "quantitative easing". In doing so, they are putting a de facto world currency into play. It is outside the control of any sovereign body. Conspiracy theorists will love it.
    It has been a good summit for the IMF. Its fighting fund for crises is to be tripled overnight to $750bn. This is real money.

    ominique Strauss-Kahn, the managing director, said in February that the world was "already in Depression" and risked a slide into social disorder and military conflict unless political leaders resorted to massive stimulus. He has not won everything he wanted. The spending plan was fudged. While Gordon Brown talked of $5 trillion in global stimulus by 2010, this is mostly made up of packages already under way.
    But Mr Strauss-Kahn at least has resources fit for his own task. He will need them. The IMF is already bailing out Pakistan, Iceland, Latvia, Hungary, Ukraine, Belarus, Serbia, Bosnia and Romania. This week Mexico became the first G20 state to ask for help. It has secured a precautionary credit line of $47bn.
    Gordon Brown said it took 15 years for the world to grasp the nettle after Great Crash in 1929. "This time I think people will agree that it has been different," he said.
    President Barack Obama was less dramatic. "I think we did OK," he said. Bretton Woods in 1944 was a simpler affair. "Just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy, that's an easy negotiation, but that's not the world we live in."
    There will be $250bn in trade finance to kick-start shipping after lenders cut back on Letters of Credit after September's heart attack in the banking system. Global trade volumes fell at annual rate of 41pc from November to January, according to Holland's CPB institute – the steepest peacetime fall on record.
    i made a thread about this plan a while ago, wasnt sure if to post it there or start afresh, il leave it to the mods to decide if a merger is in order.


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    Default Re: The G20 moves the world a step closer to a global currency

    Let's hope this isn't true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atatürk View Post
    Let's hope this isn't true.
    Even if it is, it won't last.

    The US in particular wouldn't just hand its power away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishHitman View Post
    Even if it is, it won't last.

    The US in particular wouldn't just hand its power away.
    If China dumbs their US $ reserves - the dollar would become worthless instantly

    What US power are talking about? Everything is interconnected and eventually there will be a single currency, its just a matter of time.

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    Default Re: The G20 moves the world a step closer to a global currency

    Quote Originally Posted by Atatürk View Post
    Let's hope this isn't true.
    It's from the telegraph, so don't worry.

    What I'm wondering is: how on earth did they ever manage to get from "quantitative easing" to "world currency"?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    What I'm wondering is: how on earth did they ever manage to get from "quantitative easing" to "world currency"?
    Its basically the same thing, the new 'world currency' will be used to bail out states instead of banks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    It's from the telegraph, so don't worry.

    What I'm wondering is: how on earth did they ever manage to get from "quantitative easing" to "world currency"?
    well George Soros and others who have been pushing it for a while see it as international creation of money using the Special drawing rights function of the IMF.
    To be fair, they say it is a 'step closer' rather than 'we are here'

    this was soros on the bbc recently
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ht/7981506.stm
    He goes on about it from about 4.00 on the video. but is quite intersting as a whole interview.

    As a general rule, anything thats good for soros, is bad for us.
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    Default Re: The G20 moves the world a step closer to a global currency

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfootedfred View Post
    well George Soros and others who have been pushing it for a while see it as international creation of money using the Special drawing rights function of the IMF.
    Yes, international creation of dollars, euro's pounds, etc. etc.
    Not some new "world currency".

    To be fair, they say it is a 'step closer' rather than 'we are here'
    In the same way that the Olympic Games are "a step closer" to a single world language.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    Yes, international creation of dollars, euro's pounds, etc. etc.
    Not some new "world currency".
    Well no, but a step closer to what they have been pushing for.
    They didnt get it, but its a 'step closer' in effect, which is what the article is talking about.


    World currency
    China also flexed its muscles at the London summit.

    Before the summit, the world's biggest emerging economy had pushed for a radical idea of a global reserve currency to replace the dollar.



    While that did not happen, what did was that the G20 nations agreed on essentially creating more money to help countries that need more aid.
    That money comes from an additional $250bn of special drawing rights, the IMF's own currency, consisting of a basket of currencies including the US dollar, the yen and the euro.



    IMF managing director Dominique Strauss Kahn noted that this was the first step to the IMF becoming a lender of last resort or, in effect, the world's central bank.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7981347.stm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    Yes, international creation of dollars, euro's pounds, etc. etc.
    Not some new "world currency".



    In the same way that the Olympic Games are "a step closer" to a single world language.
    The IMF has been using a 'world currency' for a while, its called SDR http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/sdr.HTM the only thing that has been decided at the G20 is that they'll get a lot more of it.

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    Default Re: The G20 moves the world a step closer to a global currency

    If China dumbs their US $ reserves - the dollar would become worthless instantly
    ummm, and what do you think would happen to china in the process?
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    ummm, and what do you think would happen to china in the process?
    They would lose all of their savings, but that's not the point I'm making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homeros View Post
    They would lose all of their savings, but that's not the point I'm making.
    The point that you're making is that the US is powerless before China.
    That is incorrect, as the Chinese have a distinct interest in keeping the US dollar afloat.

    Interdependence is reality, but the US still holds the reserve key, and they can take it back anytime they wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishHitman View Post
    The point that you're making is that the US is powerless before China.
    That is incorrect, as the Chinese have a distinct interest in keeping the US dollar afloat.
    The point he is making is that China will inevitably HAVE to get out of the U.S dollar, and hyper inflation will result.

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    Not really surprising to be honest, we all knew a global currency would come out of this from the thread you posted other week, its a but since when does whatever the people want get listened to ?

    Also i have a question for you all, a sincere question of course.

    Do you all still believe the new world order to be just a conspiracy theory, or out and out fact ?

    With a 1000 news results in google news all detailing the new world order, politicians all over the world hailing it, media and television talking about it, and still is it just a conspiracy theory ?

    "I may not like what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin N View Post
    With a 1000 news results in google news all detailing the new world order, politicians all over the world hailing it, media and television talking about it, and still is it just a conspiracy theory ?
    No. It's been true the whole time. The way these people work is that they slowly change the system until eventually they get what they want - a new world order
    Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

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    Default Re: The G20 moves the world a step closer to a global currency

    Keynesian economics is voodoo economics, and after these moron politicians blow the wealth of seven generations, they will finally admit their failure.

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    nothing wrong with global currency .... right?

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    Course not, its just more power in the hands of bankers, and if you wanna know how bad that is, look at the federal reserve, there a shining example of democracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin N View Post
    Course not, its just more power in the hands of bankers, and if you wanna know how bad that is, look at the federal reserve, there a shining example of democracy
    It means less power for the national banks - in fact they'll cease to exist. Nowadays you'll have to pay a fee to change one currency to another.

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