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    Default The World's Priorities!!

    Okay, I know I'm not a political genious by any means whatsoever, I just thought I'd share my two cents on the priorities of the world leaders today..

    Just yesterday I heard on the news that the world leaders agreed in contributing over a trillion dollars to help kickstart the economy. This is good news, I will not disagree. The world economy does need tremendous help.

    Nevertheless, something else popped into my head as I heard this news. There are things like global warming occuring, and all soughts of horrible things that man are doing to destroy this earth. We all know what they are, and we all know that the earth is in a very dire situation because of this. Everyone acknowledges it, as we know global warming generally fills in most of the news we read.

    What I want to know is, the world leaders are going to contribute ridiculous amounts of money to simply make more money. Why aren't they putting in the same effort to save this world?!? Predictions are that this world is falling apart because of us, and may be even to the point of disrepair. If not our children will face the consequences of our actions, our grandchildren will. It is that close.

    What are your thoughts on this? Why does it seem that mankind has got their priorities horribly wrong? Why does it seem like they are putting money, greed and materialism before everything -- even the earth in which they live? I'm not a greenie by any means, I just personally find it very curious that the world's governments will inject so much money into the economy, but not even match the same amount of money into saving the earth.

    In essence, what good is a strong economy if the world is to end tomorrow?

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    What do you mean by "saving the earth"? that's really general, EXPLAIN NOW.

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    humans lack of foresight will be the delightful but unpleasant end of the majority of us.

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    1) Government intervention in the economy is not a good thing, it will bring about a depression the likes of which the world has never seen.

    2) Global warming has been redeclared Global climate change, because the earth is actually getting colder and just flipping the hell out. Scientists are at a loss, and until they are not at a loss-which will never occur- I'd rather hold back on the mass regulation of our industry, Government expansion, and wasted funds.

    So the Worlds priorities? Shrink Government, shrink it hard and shrink it fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    1) Government intervention in the economy is not a good thing, it will bring about a depression the likes of which the world has never seen.

    2) Global warming has been redeclared Global climate change, because the earth is actually getting colder and just flipping the hell out. Scientists are at a loss, and until they are not at a loss-which will never occur- I'd rather hold back on the mass regulation of our industry, Government expansion, and wasted funds.

    So the Worlds priorities? Shrink Government, shrink it hard and shrink it fast.
    I agree with this post..

    1) Government should stay out of the economy.
    2) Global Warming is just fear mongering by the humanists to think that everything you do is making the earth worse and we are all going to die a painful death..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadratus View Post
    I agree with this post..

    1) Government should stay out of the economy.
    2) Global Warming is just fear mongering by the humanists to think that everything you do is making the earth worse and we are all going to die a painful death..
    Where do humanists come in? Humanists and environmentalists are two different philosophies.

    I'm both, but I don't think that we should use any kind of "global happening" as an excuse. Whether or not it doesn't exist, we should be doing more to keep the planet cleaner for our grandchildren anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadratus View Post
    I agree with this post..
    2) Global Warming is just fear mongering by the humanists to think that everything you do is making the earth worse and we are all going to die a painful death..
    Good God this is ignorant....and if it is fear mongering, it is far from the worst kind out there.
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    The best thing for the World leader's to do is get their hands out of everyone's business both financially and privately.

    Global warming is a lie. It has always been. Even recently scientists have grudgingly admitted that the warming spell the Earth went through in the late 90s to early 00s was due to an overactive sun.

    The sun is now in an unusually quiet period now that hasnt been seen for quite some time. The Earth has been cooling because of it. The last 3 years in my corner of the world Winter's have been getting colder. Spring is still not in swing where I live in Kentucky which is very unusual. Most trees have still not even begun to leave.

    Sources are forthcoming however drifting into offtopic.

    http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/..._10058501.html

    http://www.hakubi.us/foundation/841/

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...ng-762878.html

    Mankinds role in warming the Earth is nothing at all compared to what the Suns effect is.

    The Earth's atmosphere is rarefying. More is lost to space than what is received. Eventually if all runs its course the Earth will become somewhat Mars like but with a lot more ice. If anything greenhouse emissions may actually stave off the eventual iceball that Earth will become one day in a few more hundred million to a few billion years.
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    yeah when you have no government you have fiefdoms you have the dark ages--- government is the only way for any of you to ever get equal justice for ANYTHING.

    you defend your enemy because you have been trained to think you are part of the special few who are considered the overclass, the twisted vision of objectivists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaigidel View Post
    yeah when you have no government you have fiefdoms you have the dark ages--- government is the only way for any of you to ever get equal justice for ANYTHING.
    This is true, but you don't need an overly powerful government RUNNING everything, somethings, like the economy need to be left alone and work it self out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaigidel View Post
    yeah when you have no government you have fiefdoms you have the dark ages--- government is the only way for any of you to ever get equal justice for ANYTHING.

    you defend your enemy because you have been trained to think you are part of the special few who are considered the overclass, the twisted vision of objectivists.
    1) I never said no Government, no one did. Smaller Government. No Government is anarchy, and I'm a Social law and order Conservative, so obviously thats a pretty ridiculous idea for me to spout.

    2) What the hell is this overclass crap? How am I under the delusion I'm part of the over class? I'm middle class. I want a smaller Government with less regulation so as to ESCAPE the powerful few who dominant every segment of society, including the Government. Obama for example, took in the 2nd most funds from Fannie Fae and Freddie mac, and he was only a senator for a short time. No one is free from corruption, no matter how long they've been in the Government.

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    right but just like when teddy broke the monopolies ( right?) people get out of hand the government MUST assume power to correct them, I am confident they will return it once the problem is fixed ( they have before)

    we allowed too much merger not enough competition, walmart for one needs to be broken up into about 4 companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaigidel View Post
    right but just like when teddy broke the monopolies ( right?) people get out of hand the government MUST assume power to correct them, I am confident they will return it once the problem is fixed ( they have before)

    we allowed too much merger not enough competition, walmart for one needs to be broken up into about 4 companies.
    If you believe that nonsense than you are in need of advice my friend.

    The only time any government or entity has ever returned power is because it was forced to and not out of some generosity.

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    Im saying the only way anyone could ever support libertarian ideals is if they are rich themselves or under the illusion that they will one day be rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaigidel View Post
    Im saying the only way anyone could ever support libertarian ideals is if they are rich themselves or under the illusion that they will one day be rich.
    I support many Libertarian ideals, I do not think I'm rich and I do not think I will ever leave the middle class. Given the way the worlds economy is going, even with economic savvy I will be hard pressed to equal my Fathers accomplishments, let alone surpass them.

    Try again.

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    1) Government intervention in the economy is not a good thing, it will bring about a depression the likes of which the world has never seen.

    2) Global warming has been redeclared Global climate change, because the earth is actually getting colder and just flipping the hell out. Scientists are at a loss, and until they are not at a loss-which will never occur- I'd rather hold back on the mass regulation of our industry, Government expansion, and wasted funds.

    So the Worlds priorities? Shrink Government, shrink it hard and shrink it fast.
    How the hell did you become so libertarian all of a sudden? It's like you've become Hayek on drugs.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    How the hell did you become so libertarian all of a sudden? It's like you've become Hayek on drugs.
    I educated myself when the economy started going down.

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    so you admit your father has a great deal of money then scar face? not to make the subject about you

    but it proves my point--- not all rich people are libertarians , but only someone who is rich or thinks he will be rich could value the ideal of money over all and money as a judge of value to a society as a whole.

    there is nothing more dangerous in america than the extreme right of the libertarian movement; it should be treated as a terrorist enterprise.

    we have been bombed more often by libertarians in america than by muslims
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaigidel View Post
    so you admit your father has a great deal of money then scar face? not to make the subject about you

    but it proves my point--- not all rich people are libertarians , but only rich people could be self important enough to value libertarian ideals, and only fools who think they will one day be rich could ascribe to such a list of mindless insanity.

    there is nothing more dangerous in america than the extreme right of the libertarian movement; it should be treated as a terrorist enterprise.

    we have been bombed more often by libertarians in america than by muslims
    Uhh...I told you my Father was middle class. His economic accomplishments are extraordinarily meager. Your entire point falls apart right there, because its based on generalizations. Some people, some people just believe that they deserve to succeed or fail on their own merit, and that a society based on this ideal will ultimately be one that strives the furthest in all matters. It's very likely that I will fail in life, its very likely I will do alright. I doubt I'll become rich. I'm willing to take that risk. I do not want the Government wasting public funds to save me from my own mistakes.

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    but libertarian ideals do not support success or failure on your own merit my good man; they support the absolute domination of "the captains of industry" no law but who can buy whom. it is simply a new royalty and an ideal that supports the justice of that new royalty existing, but the new royalty will fall or there will be blood.

    one can still succeed without behaving like our modern pirates of the worlds wealth.

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