killing celebrities/Famous People

[lifeonmars]

My gentleman last night has probably changed history. My gentleman in trying to steal tech. killed both issac Newton. So no gravity in theory and no calculus. So it's okay then.

If you think about it further however. Newton inspired Einstien's work who would not have made such progress without Newton. So no nukes.

So this is a more perfect reality in a way.

[Johann von Bremen]

But without calculus, maybe there won't be any computers, therefore no ETW!

[RayvenQ]

But without calculus, maybe there won't be any computers, therefore no ETW!

Therefore he didn't kill Newton, therefore ETW exists, therefore he can kill newton, paradox alert.

[lifeonmars]

to constin the great
it was a more perfect reality as there were no nukes!

Which in my obviously quite radical thinking would be a good thing

[Kraut]

to constin the great
it was a more perfect reality as there were no nukes!

Which in my obviously quite radical thinking would be a good thing

You should be happy about all the cruel weapons which do not exist because we just do not know them. You live in a nearly perfect world without the X weapon, without the Y weapon and without any Z weapons. Enjoy it! Just as the people in the 18th century should have enjoyed to live in a world without nuclear weapons.

[KozCDVI]

But without calculus, maybe there won't be any computers, therefore no ETW!

Awesome pardox!!

I was just playing a campaign as the British, and I came across a general in battle who died.
His name seemed a tad familiar. It was only Noel Fielding!!! xD

[Baron von Sky Hat]

Awesome pardox!!

I was just playing a campaign as the British, and I came across a general in battle who died.
His name seemed a tad familiar. It was only Noel Fielding!!! xD

I got him too! But as a minister.
I think a rather more interesting alternate history would be what if someone responsible for the Might Boosh was in high office during the 1700's...

[tokaiser]

My gentleman last night has probably changed history. My gentleman in trying to steal tech. killed both issac Newton. So no gravity in theory and no calculus. So it's okay then.

If you think about it further however. Newton inspired Einstien's work who would not have made such progress without Newton. So no nukes.

So this is a more perfect reality in a way.

Isaac Newton was only one piece of a very large puzzle and many names you have never heard of were just as important to science. If Isaac was never around I would guess it may have taken at most 5 years off western physics. Still an amazing contribution to many fields no doubt. The Atom Bomb would have happened either way at roughly the same time, hell you didnt even really need Einstein as other men had closed the gap and surpassed him even by 1943 on quantum mechanics. If you read Einstein nowadays it wouldnt pass college physics as it doesnt factor in the exponential expansion property of atoms.

[Constantin_the_Great]

if it wasn't newton it would have been someone else.

You sound like the guy at the the back of class who whined... 'i hate the guy who invented maths'

[jumong]

if there are no nukes...you think they will invent the ion cannon?

[MDUK]

no calculus

Calculus has been around for thousands of years...

[Mangalore]

Calculus (German: Infinitesimalrechnung) has been formalized by Leibnitz as well. Newton did everything to destroy this guys reputation because he claimed he was the one who invented it first.

One could assume this means that there were various scientists capable to come up with rather similar advances.

[Baron von Sky Hat]

I'm under the impression that it was kind of independently discovered/formalised at around the same time by Newton and Leibniz. My impression has always been that Newton looked at it more from the perspective of solving physical problems, whereas Leibniz saw it more from a pure mathematical slant and did more of the formalisation of it.

Calculus has been around for thousands of years...

I think that elements of calculus had existed for some time, but I'm fairly certain that what we consider as modern calculus didn't exist until Newton/Leibniz.

Einstein's work wasn't needed for the invention of the nuclear bomb, either, to the best of my knowledge. The relativistic effects that Einstein was responsible for weren't necessary for the mechanics of actually designing and building one, though it is true that the energy released by one can be expressed through the mass-energy equivalence idea that's associated with Einstein.

Isaac Newton was only one piece of a very large puzzle and many names you have never heard of were just as important to science. If Isaac was never around I would guess it may have taken at most 5 years off western physics. Still an amazing contribution to many fields no doubt. The Atom Bomb would have happened either way at roughly the same time, hell you didnt even really need Einstein as other men had closed the gap and surpassed him even by 1943 on quantum mechanics. If you read Einstein nowadays it wouldnt pass college physics as it doesnt factor in the exponential expansion property of atoms.

I think it's a little unfair to describe him as simply being `surpassed', admittedly physics has continued to move on since his major works on special and general relativity (as science does from anyones work), but they were still works of genius. However, yeah, atomic weapons would likely have either not been delayed much, or possibly even at all, by the lack of Einsteins contribution to physics.

Though without Newton, the progress of science, I think, would have been extremely different. Disregarding his parallel use of modern Calculus with Leibniz, the actual things that he used that calculus for were very original, and extremely solid. It really was only with Einsteins work in the early 1900's that anything really suggested that it wasn't the entirely correct picture. (Bit's and pieces, possibly, I'm under the impression that Newtonian mechanics didn't quite adequately describe the orbit of Mercury for one thing.)
So, while I've no doubt the same ideas would have come along at some point, it's difficult to say when, or how complete they'd be, or the exact manner in which they'd affect the progression of science.
Newton was undoubtedly a genius, though possibly not quite as wonderful as it seems he thought he was... I think he is very much reputed to have been very big-headed...

[upsettingshorts]

A lot of inventions came at a time when their discovery was almost inevitable, and many people were working on a solution at the same time. History records people who got there first. But had they failed, there were others right on their heels.