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    Default Was the game suppose to include South America, Africa, Australia, etc?

    After the revelation that there were many historic battles in the programming but stripped out of the actual game... I'm wondering if our half-slice-of-Earth was originally suppose to contain the entire globe?

    I mean look at the trailer, it seems to show an entire world map on it at the end before the game title appears.

    I won't even say the word beta... but, beta.

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    Default Re: Was the game suppose to include South America, Africa, Australia, etc?

    Maybe South America and South Africa - there weren't any wars going on in Australia in the game time frame. Australia was only colonized by Britain as a result of the War of Independance with the USA. I do know that the Dutch visited the coast of Western Australia a few times. Dirk Hartog even left a pewter plate stuck to a pole. There were quite a few ship wrecks along the coast as well.

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    Oh so the game is suppose to just be based on known war engaging factions? When I bought the game I thought it would be a completely open globe for world domination, with the usual suspects of factions.

    I admit, I'm very impressed at the number of minor factions CA put into the game but confused why they didnt include these other continents.... I think you could get rid of half of the game's current minor factions and easily populate these other continents' lands with factions without having 'too much' in the game.

    I guess this game should've been called "The more important parts of the world: Total War" or something.

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    Default Re: Was the game suppose to include South America, Africa, Australia, etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohnoesaz View Post
    Oh so the game is suppose to just be based on known war engaging factions? When I bought the game I thought it would be a completely open globe for world domination, with the usual suspects of factions.

    I admit, I'm very impressed at the number of minor factions CA put into the game but confused why they didnt include these other continents.... I think you could get rid of half of the game's current minor factions and easily populate these other continents' lands with factions without having 'too much' in the game.

    I guess this game should've been called "The more important parts of the world: Total War" or something.
    Did you read any previews before buying the game?

    Wait for the mods to see what they can produce.

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    I have a feeling more of the world will be added in with expansions. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Far East expansion pack come out with Australia included. Maybe Africa too, but it should be easy conquering those lands as they lacked in technology. I think thats why lower South America, Africa and Australia weren't added in. Not many wars happened in these regions.

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    I think the coasts of Western Africa should have been included as conquerable territory, but I don't think the rest of South America is important until the 19th century.
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    Austrailia?!(starts to laugh)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcoat69 View Post
    Austrailia?!(starts to laugh)
    I know right? All they have there are kangaroos, and people haven't needed good football boots until recently!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkat View Post
    I know right? All they have there are kangaroos, and people haven't needed good football boots until recently!
    Man, I hope you don't live in America... or Europe for that matter. Because either way, you have 'no' right in telling us that our football is bad. Soccer = bunch of pansies that can't take a hit.
    Gridiron = bunch of pansies that can take a hit.. if they're wearing 15 inch armour.

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    +rep redcoat.

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    Default Re: Was the game suppose to include South America, Africa, Australia, etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohnoesaz View Post
    After the revelation that there were many historic battles in the programming but stripped out of the actual game... I'm wondering if our half-slice-of-Earth was originally suppose to contain the entire globe?

    I mean look at the trailer, it seems to show an entire world map on it at the end before the game title appears.

    I won't even say the word beta... but, beta.
    Did you even read the info on the back of the box or watch the month(if not year old) videos?
    On the box: The year is 1701. Fuelled by gunpowder, an escalating arms race between the world's superpowers will see gigantic warships bristiling with cannon take to the oceans, while ranks of musketmen and field guns line up across the battlefields of Europe, America and India.

    It does say America with no mentioning of North or/and South, but by watching the videos at totalwar.com, it is quite obvious which parts they are refering to.

    I won't even say the word...but, beta(-post/purchase).

    Meh, Australia... The British founded the city of Sydney Cove after giving up settling at Botany Bay, where they were visited briefly by a French expedition fleet. Wiki on this:
    Governor Arthur Phillip sailed the Armed Tender "Supply" into the bay on 18 January 1788. Two days later the remaining ships of the First Fleet had arrived to found the planned penal colony. Finding that the sandy infertile soil of the site in fact rendered it most unsuitable for settlement, Phillip decided instead to move to the excellent natural harbour of Port Jackson to the north. On 26 January, as the First Fleet was working out of the bay to move up to Port Jackson, the French exploratory expedition of Jean-François de La Pérouse "Laprouse" entered Botany Bay. On the afternoon of the 26th January 1788, the First Fleet were anchored in Sydney Cove and the British Flag "Queen Ann" was hoisted on shore. The good supply of fresh water in the area led to the expansion of its population in the 19th century.

    Too bad they didn't accept an young Corsican called Napoleon for that expedition...The whole fleet went down later on and the only survivor was a crewmember, who had been put ashore on the Kamchatka peninsula much earlier to journey across Russia to deliver letters and documents to France.
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    Default Re: Was the game suppose to include South America, Africa, Australia, etc?

    I want to fight proxy wars with the French over small Polynesian islands!!!

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    I wanna take over Australia (Im an Aussie)
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    Default Re: Was the game suppose to include South America, Africa, Australia, etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Legion 88 View Post
    I wanna take over Australia (Im an Aussie)

    Take over Australia You mean you want to play the Australia faction and take over the world!

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    Default Re: Was the game suppose to include South America, Africa, Australia, etc?

    Perth (where I grew up) was only settled in 1829 to stop the French from claiming the land. It was known as the Swan River Colony back then (Perth). There is a decent port in Albany but that's a long way away from Perth.

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    Hey all,

    Look.......ETW shows a LARGE portion of Central Asia and Eastern Asia missing, per se.

    I think that given Steam and the loooooooong awaiting of Shogun II that the next evolution of the TW series will be Shogun II: Total War.

    The expansion for ETW will probably be Napoleonic Total War or American Civil War or something like that IMHO.

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    I think theres enough Africa in the GC as it is, European settlement in Subsaharan Africa in the 18th century consisted of small trading posts on the coasts only, and as far as South America is concerned there wasnt much going on south of the carribean costal colonies during this time period. Australia would be an interesting add but considering how much asian land is available in India/Persia already it seems silly to add a continent that was very sparsely populated until 20th century.

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    Yeah, I bet theyll be available for purchase in expansion packs, lame.

    Australia in particular was something I wanted.... Playing as the natives there would've been nice to not only hold off the invasion of foreigners but even expand out. Hey, its a video game, we can do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampyrian View Post
    I think theres enough Africa in the GC as it is, European settlement in Subsaharan Africa in the 18th century consisted of small trading posts on the coasts only, and as far as South America is concerned there wasnt much going on south of the carribean costal colonies during this time period. Australia would be an interesting add but considering how much asian land is available in India/Persia already it seems silly to add a continent that was very sparsely populated until 20th century.
    Right, Europe's influence hadn't spread as widely yet, but my point is you could play as the homeland people in all of these countries in these continents. Take any small group of people and create an empire with them. Thats what I'm getting at.... Instead the game has limited us to only areas influenced by Europe, when in reality Europe is only part of the story of what was happening in this era.

    Its not like the rest of the world was standing still waiting for Europeans to arrive...

    Maybe it should've been named "European Influence: Total War"

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    Default Re: Was the game suppose to include South America, Africa, Australia, etc?

    I am guessing more of the world will be available as future expansions come.

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