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    Hey all,

    I was just wondering if there is a Fusiliers unit in Empire: Total War?

    Post edited. Please do not use all caps, thank you. - Thanatos
    Last edited by Thanatos; April 02, 2009 at 12:14 PM.

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    Default Re: FUSILIERS

    Caps lock ftw.
    Dont think they are in ETW.


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    What exactly would be the difference between fusiliers and normal line infantry?


    Its just a name, you can name your line infantry and call the fusiliers if you want =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatsie View Post
    What exactly would be the difference between fusiliers and normal line infantry?


    Its just a name, you can name your line infantry and call the fusiliers if you want =D
    Technically Fusileers would be issued Fussiles rather then Muskets.

    A Fussil is basically a shortened musket, is a bit easier to load, and easier to carry. Usually a Fusileer regiment was a militia or volunteer unit, though there was at least one British line regiment called the Fusileers (want to say the 7th Royal Welch Fussileers but I might be wrong)

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    That is 'fusilier' in the 17th century sense, when a fusil meant a flintlock musket that was shorter than the standard matchlock, which was often so large that it needed to be rested on a forked stand. In the 18th century, the term 'fusilier' was often synonomous with line infantry. In Prussia, however, it meant light infantry, armed with the standard musket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furious Mental View Post
    That is 'fusilier' in the 17th century sense, when a fusil meant a flintlock musket that was shorter than the standard matchlock, which was often so large that it needed to be rested on a forked stand. In the 18th century, the term 'fusilier' was often synonomous with line infantry. In Prussia, however, it meant light infantry, armed with the standard musket.
    And while I'm no expert on this stuff, I seem to remember reading the reason they were created was becuase matchlocks where not things you wanted to have around artillery. So fusiliers where created so that you could have people guarding the artiliery. Of course with the widespread use of flintlocks in an army anybody could do that job and so fusiliers just became synonymous with line infantry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOsterman View Post
    Technically Fusileers would be issued Fussiles rather then Muskets.

    A Fussil is basically a shortened musket, is a bit easier to load, and easier to carry. Usually a Fusileer regiment was a militia or volunteer unit, though there was at least one British line regiment called the Fusileers (want to say the 7th Royal Welch Fussileers but I might be wrong)
    The 7th was just the Royal Fusiliers, the 23rd was the Royal Welch Fusiliers if I remember correctly. There was also a Royal Scots Fusiliers regiment, though I forget the number.

    The 'fusilier' thing ceased to be a distinguishing mark of their equipment in the late 18th century at the latest, in the British army at least.

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    There are many fusiliers in ETW. Mainly all line infantry. Fusilier was the normal name for a normal soldier in the 18th c. because all used fusils (a smoothbore gun with a flintlock).

    Only in Prussia the name musketeer remained for the older regiments although they used fusils of course since the 1680's. New regiments under Frederic II. were named fusilier regiments. They were normal heavy line infantry, but a little bit smaller men were allowed to be recruited, they used a slightly shorter fusil than the musketeers and wore a funny clowns cap similar to but shorter as the grenadiers cap.

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    Default Re: FUSILIERS

    It seems to me that "F" term -) is intermittent in usage with musketers or essentially company of foot, at least in the 1700s timeframe.

    Special units with more advanced gun weaponry, such as riflemen, are caleed special other than line infantry..

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