Britain should have conscription to the armed forces

[Atatürk]

I think it's about time that we should introduce a law where every British male (At least) has to join the army for at least 1 year after he's finished his education. I think that all conscripts should be sent to foreign countries like Iraq or Afghanistan where the fighting is intense.

Anyone else think it's a good idea?

Just like mother Turkey.

[Frankie88]

I'm sick of British people who are such wimps. I think it's about time that we should introduce a law where every British male (At least) has to join the army for at least 1 year after he's finished his education. I think that all conscripts should be sent to foreign countries like Iraq or Afghanistan where the fighting is intense.

Anyone else think it's a good idea?

Just like mother Turkey.

Yes lets train hoodies with knifes how to handle machine guns I can't see any possible flaw in that plan.

[Azog 150]

Anyone else think it's a good idea?

Not in the slightest.

[Atatürk]

Yes lets train hoodies with knifes how to handle machine guns I can't see any possible flaw in that plan.

It will remove the young criminals off the streets and it will give them a future, a future in the armed forces.

[Lancy]

It will remove the young criminals off the streets and it will give them a future, a future in the armed forces.

If they really wanted that future they could join the military of their own volition. It's likely that most will just go back to their old lives once their year is up.

[Atatürk]

If they really wanted that future they could join the military of their own volition. It's likely that most will just go back to their old lives once their year is up.

No, they live in their current lives because they can't progress through academia and most of them don't even consider apprenticeships. This is the lifestyle of people with no future. Trust me, I know these people and they would stay in the armed forces because they know that the armed forces would give them a proper life where they can earn a living.

The United Kingdom has had very little history with consciption. Most people on the United States and United Kingdom strongly dislike conscription, so I doubt either Government will ever introduce it, since that Government would fall because it would lose the support, and therefore the votes, of the people. I personally am an advocate of conscription, since the nation will then have a ready supply of trained soldiers that can be called up immediately. I doubt it's every being considered though.

It's because there's very little patriotism left in the country and most people have the mindset "I don't want to die".

[Lancy]

Trust me, I know these people and they would stay in the armed forces because they know that the armed forces would give them a proper life where they can earn a living.

Some of them probably would find a proper life and purpose if they were forced to join the military for a year, but by no means all.

If they were unwilling to consider apprenticeships (or to choose to join the military without being forced to) before to give them a proper life where they could earn a living then why should a life of discipline and structure be so much more appealing now (when they had been forced into it), when they could revert back to the lives of crime that they know.

[Erebus Pasha]

No, they live in their current lives because they can't progress through academia and most of them don't even consider apprenticeships. This is the lifestyle of people with no future. Trust me, I know these people and they would stay in the armed forces because they know that the armed forces would give them a proper life where they can earn a living.

In the current climate quite a few people who progress through university or college are unable to get the jobs they want, and skilled workers are being laid off left, right and centre.

Whilst I think National Service would be a good idea, service in the armed forces would not be for everyone's taste.

[color=Black]It's because there's very little patriotism left in the country and most people have the mindset "I don't want to die".

There is but it tends to be crushed under the weight of political correctness. Britain has a long military history but generally people feel detached from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Yorkshireman]

[color=Black]It's because there's very little patriotism left in the country and most people have the mindset "I don't want to die".

Why do you care, your not even British ? If you think this countries so soft why don't you go back to Turkey then?

[Lord Claremorris]

It's because there's very little patriotism left in the country and most people have the mindset "I don't want to die".

That's clearly misunderstanding and oversimplfying things. Many people in Britain have never experienced conscription, and conscription was bitterly opposed in Ireland, at least, I'm not sure about the rest of the United Kingdom at the time. There are many who willingly joined the colors to fight and perhaps die, but that was for a war where the safety of the United Kingdom itself was in jeopardy. In this war I see the British as merely a supporting party to American Neo-Imperialims, and most British and American people are completely opposed to it. So introducing a draft on an already discontented people is both unwise and impractical, since something alike to mass evasion on the Vietnam pattern would likely occur. This all has nothing to do with cowardice, as you seem to think. If I were to put you in the army, and send you into a war that you didn't believe in, and told you to shoot people you had no problem with, and you said no, would you be a coward? Therein lies the answer to your question.

[The Longbowman]

most people have the mindset "I don't want to die".

LMAO. Genius pure genius. How dare we embrace our natural desire for self-preservation, how very dare we.

[MaximiIian]

It's because there's very little patriotism left in the country and most people have the mindset "I don't want to die".

Has nothing to do with lack of patriotism, and everything to do with how much dying sucks.

[Richard]

It's because there's very little patriotism left in the country and most people have the mindset "I don't want to die".[/COLOR]

Seems a fairly sane mindset to me.

[sephodwyrm]

I don't really support a mandatory service system. We have that in Taiwan as well, and our people are still wimpier than the mainlanders.

[Lord Claremorris]

I'm sick of British people who are such wimps. I think it's about time that we should introduce a law where every British male (At least) has to join the army for at least 1 year after he's finished his education. I think that all conscripts should be sent to foreign countries like Iraq or Afghanistan where the fighting is intense.

Anyone else think it's a good idea?

Just like mother Turkey.

The United Kingdom has had very little history with consciption. Most people on the United States and United Kingdom strongly dislike conscription, so I doubt either Government will ever introduce it, since that Government would fall because it would lose the support, and therefore the votes, of the people. I personally am an advocate of conscription, since the nation will then have a ready supply of trained soldiers that can be called up immediately. I doubt it's every being considered though.

[seal]

I could think of no scarier situation than going to a weapon qualification range with a soldier that don't want to be there. I'll take volunteers, thank you very much.

[Farnan]

I could think of no scarier situation than going to a weapon qualification range with a soldier that don't want to be there. I'll take volunteers, thank you very much.

Funny how it seems most people in favor of conscription never served and are too old to be drafted...

[Dr. Croccer]

Funny how it seems most people in favor of conscription never served and are too old to be drafted...

Conscription into the military: a visition ticket to the nation, and introduction to manhood, adulthood and responsibility as a citizen and your toll to the fatherland and monarch.



Or something.

[wudang_clown]

I'm sick of British people who are such wimps. I think it's about time that we should introduce a law where every British male (At least) has to join the army for at least 1 year after he's finished his education. I think that all conscripts should be sent to foreign countries like Iraq or Afghanistan where the fighting is intense.

Tough guy has spoken, I believe?

In the army there are also wimps, and these are conscripts. Moreover, army and war makes wimps out of tough guys. Psychology is more complicated, than you think. Your "wimp" category is very problematic, because it highly depends on your personal point of view. Did you hear about combat stress reaction? It may concern every candidate for a "tough guy", you never know, who will soften.

Besides, conscription is not a remedy for crime. Again, you are unable to anticipate, who, after his army-service, will become regular criminal. It is not unusual for servicemen or policemen to become gangsters.

It is nice, to see, how one is taking care of nation's virility. But I think that there's nothing wrong with British, and they can take care of themselves.

Why do you care, your not even British ? If you think this countries so soft why don't you go back to Turkey then?

Precisely.

[Каие]

This country has a long history and tradition of voluntary service in times of peace, and sometimes even in times of war. The fact is these same ''wimpy brits'' were the same ones who destroyed your old Empire Kemal.