Okay...why are my family members all retarded?

[Darkside]

I just tried this mod for the diversity of the legions (I play RTR mostly). The install is fine, but as a side note sometimes the unit detail cards show up, sometimes they don't, just to let you know.

But...

My main question is: why are all my family members degenrate pieces of pooh? I move them around, I put them in command of armies, yet 90 percent of them are degenerate fools.

WTH is going on here?

[ISA Gunner]

Corruption. If you have over 50,000 moneys in your treasury at the end of the turn, ALL generals/governors will start developing unhealthy traits. Seeing as we're talking about money, i'd like to point out that taxes should always be set on high unless its impossible due to happiness. This way, you're governors will pick up good management and possibly influencial traits.

To make your generals good, put them in armies and make them win battles. Don't go overboard with heroic victories. Move generals to different legions, give them long service leave to a nice resort such as Caralis.
If they lose battles, they'll become crap generals. If they win too much and too well, they'll develop negative traits for being TOO good.

So try these things and then tell us if your family members are still mentally retarded. Oh, kill off your current bad ones. Chuck em in a boat and send them into enemy or pirate infested waters.

[Lou337]

Oh, kill off your current bad ones. Chuck em in a boat and send them into enemy or pirate infested waters.

This is something that I've never liked doing. Instead, I suggest grouping all the crappy generals into one army of crappy generals. Have them go on some crazy mission to take a far-away city or something. Have them fight through rebel groups. Eventually, the leader of that army, if he hasn't been killed yet will probably gain some good command traits, even if the rest of his relatives die. Natural selection.

[Gromovnik]

BTW. what are the negative traits for winning too much battles? (just some examples please)

[ISA Gunner]

Gaius Julius Caesar. Many victories = lots of fame and MUCH polotical and senatorial hatred. Unpopular. No matter how much your legions like you.

[Brusilov]

I just tried this mod for the diversity of the legions (I play RTR mostly). The install is fine, but as a side note sometimes the unit detail cards show up, sometimes they don't, just to let you know.

But...

My main question is: why are all my family members degenrate pieces of pooh? I move them around, I put them in command of armies, yet 90 percent of them are degenerate fools.

WTH is going on here?

The unit detail cards sometimes have images and sometimes not. It's a 'feature' of RTW. Apparently clicking on a different settlement to look at the details and then go back and look at the original unit is supposed to work.

You need to build up your education buildings and then recruit governors and generals. Use those and hopefully they will bring fresh blood into the family.

[pseudocaesar]

Put em in settlements with schools for a year or two before you give them command, they get proper traits that help in the long run.

[Jugurta]

u should meet my family but heh what can u do ? they re ur family u cant help care for them and allow them to empty ur fridge

but yeah i noticed too that when playing rome i get crappy generals but not when playing carthage, i get 5-6 star generals from start,i dont know if it a feature to balance the game or something

[Darkside]

I understand your dispositions on the subject. But I say with an abudnace of confidence that there has not been an opportunity left out. I have moved the characters, I have kept them in the same place. I have seen them develop, regardless, nasty traits that inhibit any kind of fictious or indeed non-fictitious scenarios. I move my characters around regularly. I make sure that the upkeep is good or better than good. Still I see the characters, the Family members to be precise, become degenerate fools who certainly do not envision the glory of Rome.

I hope you can understand that I have done everything I can think of regarding fixing this. It does not fail; every one of them, regardless of my actions, devolves into an idiot.

If u need anymore info, please ask. I very much enjoy this MOD, and I need to understand why this is happening. Else I go back to RTR, which I'm sure is your number one competitor.

Thanks.

[Loiro]

I would like to see some screenshots of these unter menschen

[Squid]

I understand your dispositions on the subject. But I say with an abudnace of confidence that there has not been an opportunity left out. I have moved the characters, I have kept them in the same place. I have seen them develop, regardless, nasty traits that inhibit any kind of fictious or indeed non-fictitious scenarios. I move my characters around regularly. I make sure that the upkeep is good or better than good. Still I see the characters, the Family members to be precise, become degenerate fools who certainly do not envision the glory of Rome.

I hope you can understand that I have done everything I can think of regarding fixing this. It does not fail; every one of them, regardless of my actions, devolves into an idiot.

If u need anymore info, please ask. I very much enjoy this MOD, and I need to understand why this is happening. Else I go back to RTR, which I'm sure is your number one competitor.

Thanks.

As has been asked a few times, post screens. If you don't we can't help you. What version of the mod are you playing?

[chaney]

Post a screenie of 2 or 3 of your generals

[Tankbuster]

I should probably mention here that you can edit the amount of money you need to hit, in order for the corruption traits to kick in.
When you go to descr_export__character_traits, you can set the "corruption triggers". Basically you change the number 50000 (amount of denarii when you'll get corruption traits) you find there, to something you like better

*Waiting for retaliations and the burning and torturing of my loved ones by RS purists*

[TheAeneas]

good to know!

[GreatOne]

Actually an interesting little thing I found out is that most of the Greek generals(at least ones in my faction(s)) are retarded, dull, slow, essentially stupid as hell.Shouldnt it be the other way around?

[TheAeneas]

Yeah, you'd think that the Greeks would have a pretty high standard for there Generals, considering thier many cultural achievements.

You know this is so funny! When I saw the title of this thread, I just laughed so much. I cannot tell you how many crazy, useless Generals I have had! I really sympathize with you guys. I once had this general, who was literally crazy, and I cant remember the trait exactly, but it was something like he used to paint Goat's bladders purple and wear them as earings or something. Brilliant!

I remeber in one of the older version's of RS, you had to manually remove the immortality trait when playing with the alex.exe, which I never, because I ended up with these generals who lived for hundreds of years and who had all these amazing traits and stuff. that was pretty cool. Though these days, I really appreciate having a 10 star general as it's pretty hard to get that far in one lifetime, which ultimately I prefer. All the sour, just makes you appreciate the sweet so much more...

[Darkside]

okay well, I've deleted my campaign, and am starting a new one. As soon as my characters develop unhealthy traits, ill post screens of them which I'm sure won't take too long.

As a side question, how exactly are specific traits manifested? Is there more to simply moving them around and building academic buildings? Like how does one become dubious, or a useless tax assessor?

Is there a page that explains the traits in detail anywhere?

[chaney]

I dont think there is a thread hich explains them in detail , But many traits mainifest due to money levels over 50000 at the end of your turn, I dont particularly know how generic traits manifest , I think it has something to do with their father and mother other than that Im clueless

[cnaeus]

when they get bad traits it might help moving them to your capital as i dont think they'll start an uprising there.(just an idea, i never tested it or something)

cnaeus,

[Paedric]

Is there a page that explains the traits in detail anywhere?

If you want all the triggers for the traits, just the "export_character_trait_descr" in the data folder.

Go near the bottom, all is detailled.