Is the concept of free energy true?

**Atatürk** · March 31, 2009, 04:21 AM

The Second Lie of Thermodynamics

The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that any spontaneous process occurring in the universe leads to an overall increase in the entropy of the universe. This is an example of a "negative pregnant" science belief system, designed to conceal unlimited available energy in the universe. That makes it a Pretty Big Lie. It includes the "double-think" and contradiction that are the earmarks of bogus science which unfortunately becomes "establishment science", and is an insult to the ordinary, reasonable and prudent layperson's mind.

It's as if some big shots sat down in 1919, lit up their Cubanos, and said: "This fellow, Nikola Tesla, has been talking about 'environmental energy' which is unlimited and free. This is dangerous to our interests. The papers and magazines have been giving him too much attention. From now on, our media and institutions will support and promote only the works of those scientists who can produce excuses as to why the energy available to us is NOT unlimited, OR free." By the creation of a plethora of red herrings and negative pregnants—all of which chisel away at the citizen's awareness of the non-polluting energy available from the environment—a mass psychosis thought'Control system has been created in academic science, which trains young scholars to dismiss alternative views and to attack those who attempt to point these things out, as "pseudoscientists". These young scholars then march out into the world with their minds steeled against the possibilities available in nature and in creative science, while preaching the monopoly-designed gospel of fossil fuel consumerism.

From "Occult Science Dictatorship" by William Lyne

Selfrunning Bedini Motor Replication

This Bedini engine replica use only the capacitor for power source, and yet it speeds up. Over unity.

Is this actually true? Thanks.

**Dayman** · March 31, 2009, 05:38 AM

No, it's impossible.

**Atatürk** · March 31, 2009, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by Dayman

No, it's impossible.

But that thing says/shows it's true.

Why is it impossible?

**Dayman** · March 31, 2009, 05:55 AM

Because it breaks the second law of thermodynamics. There is a lot of pseudoscience out there about free energy, I'm looking for some stuff to post right now.

**Atatürk** · March 31, 2009, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Dayman

Because it breaks the second law of thermodynamics. There is a lot of pseudoscience out there about free energy, I'm looking for some stuff to post right now.

Could you perhaps make yourself more clear?

**Dayman** · March 31, 2009, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Kemalraik

Could you perhaps make yourself more clear?

Any more clear? There is no such thing as free energy due to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. You can't get more energy out of a system than you put in. It's impossible. People who are claiming otherwise are either liars or dupes. Like I said, I'm looking for some sources to back up what I'm saying.

**Atatürk** · March 31, 2009, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Dayman

Any more clear? There is no such thing as free energy due to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. You can't get more energy out of a system than you put in. It's impossible. People who are claiming otherwise are either liars or dupes. Like I said, I'm looking for some sources to back up what I'm saying.

What about the Bendini Motor Replication?

Forum link: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1988.0.html

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**Dayman** · March 31, 2009, 06:38 AM

Laws of physics can't be broken...

**Atatürk** · March 31, 2009, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dayman

Laws of physics can't be broken...

You're so frustrating and you still haven't answered my question properly. I showed you images and video demonstrating free energy, I even gave you the blueprints as proof.

Explain this to me?

**Juvenal** · March 31, 2009, 06:44 AM

Suppose Perpetual Motion Machines (such as the one you describe) existed.

What are the consequences?

I would expect the Oil Multinationals to go bust and everyone to be using the new engine.

Has this happened? No.

Conclusion: it is a scam. QED.

**Dayman** · March 31, 2009, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Kemalraik

You're so frustrating and you still haven't answered my question properly. I showed you images and video demonstrating free energy, I even gave you the blueprints as proof.

Explain this to me?

Explain how they can break the laws of physics. Burden of proof is always on the claimant. Showing random pics of blueprints and a video of a motor isn't proof. Find some real, credible, scientific journal endorsing a machine. If they really worked, we'd be using them.

**Atatürk** · March 31, 2009, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Dayman

Explain how they can break the laws of physics. Burden of proof is always on the claimant. Showing random pics of blueprints and a video of a motor isn't proof. Find some real, credible, scientific journal endorsing a machine. If they really worked, we'd be using them.

Maybe it is a conspiracy by the government, that "nothing is free in life". That is a machine that actually worked, and there are other machines like that.

"Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments."
Nikola Tesla

"Elecric power is everywhere present in unlimited quantities and can drive the worlds machinery
without the need of coal, oil, gas, or any other of the common fuels!"
Nikola Tesla

"Nikola Tesla was not in this for the money. He wanted to give the world free energy.
If we are to implement free energy in the tradition of Nikola Tesla, then we need to replicate not only his science, but his humanity."
Sterling D. Allan

"Free energy will promulgate a forward leap in human progress, akin to the discovery of fire.
It will bring the dawn of an entirely new civilization - one based on freedom and abundance."
Sterling D. Allan

"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead you're a crackpot."
Rabbi Shlomo Riskin

More examples of free energy

**Dayman** · March 31, 2009, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Kemalraik

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Captain Blackadder** · March 31, 2009, 06:53 AM

No it is not there are various ways to get "free" energy that involve leaching it from some other source but these forms are so inefficient that spending $100,000 on wires gets you enough power to power a watch. So in the end some of them look promising but they are a mirage that will never do anything of note.

**Dayman** · March 31, 2009, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

No it is not there are various ways to get "free" energy that involve leaching it from some other source but these forms are so inefficient that spending $100,000 on wires gets you enough power to power a watch. So in the end some of them look promising but they are a mirage that will never do anything of note.

You can't get more energy from a system then you put in. There is always some loss in the process, by leaching it from another source then it isn't really free energy.

**Captain Blackadder** · March 31, 2009, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Dayman

You can't get more energy from a system then you put in. There is always some loss in the process, by leaching it from another source then it isn't really free energy.

Yes I am aware of that hence the "" all the free energy things out there are really leaches they are not free they are inefficient and have a whole lot more problems.

**Atatürk** · March 31, 2009, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

Yes I am aware of that hence the "" all the free energy things out there are really leaches they are not free they are inefficient and have a whole lot more problems.

Could you explain to me what you mean by "leaching"?

**Captain Blackadder** · April 01, 2009, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by Kemalraik

Could you explain to me what you mean by "leaching"?

You are suspended but I shall answer your question.

I have seen various methods of free energy and the one that got the most power involved wrapping large amounts of cable near high voltage power lines these power line actually emit small amounts of stray power that for a lack of a better word travels through the air thus supposedly if you got enough you would never have to pay for power again since you are leeching/taking your power from the air. But the amount of power is so little that to get back the money for the wires would take 1000s of years and even then you could maybe power one small device.

**Lovejoy** · March 31, 2009, 07:14 AM

If we had "infinity" energy we would obviously use it. It would have been the biggest discovery ever. I like the first video you posted the most... How is it "free energy" if you take energy from the sun?