Arab summit rejects arrest warrrant for Bashir

[Nikos]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...t_11103109.htm

DOHA, March 30 – Leaders attending the 21st Arab League (AL) annual summit ended the meeting here Monday with the adoption of a final communiqué on joint rejection of the arrest warrant for Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, inter-Arab reconciliation and the Middle East peace process.
"We emphasis our solidarity with Sudan and our dismissal and rejection of the decision handed down by the International Criminal Court," Moussa quoted the communiqué as saying. He said that the decision to arrest Bashir was aimed "at undermining the unity and stability of Sudan".

Fail Arab league. What are they thinking? It's obvious the leaders in the Arab league don't care about the innocent civilians in Sudan, they just want to slap the West with this. Ridiculous, maybe if the Arab league criticized Sudan, instead of giving it comfort something could be done!

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

Ah, the wonderful impotence of international law!

[Barry Goldwater]

What little respect I still had for the Arab League has just evaporated.

[The Dude]

Read in arrogant teenage girl voice: Like, geez, who do you West people think you ARE?! Like, I mean, like... that's so totally uncool. You're like, totally not the boss of me, you know. Like, totally. I'll do whatever I want to ANYWAY. You can't stop me, who do you think you are? Like, geez. SO uncool. Like, talk to the hand, you know. Losers.

[Nikos]

What little respect I still had for the Arab League has just evaporated.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, along with leaders of five other AL member states, stayed away from the summit, taking the shine off the summit.

At least Egypt had the balls to not be intimidated by the Arab league. Go President Mubarak!

[jankren]

The Arab League is a joke. Shame on them. However, some countries such as USA and Britain dont have the right to say anything about them either because they will be hypocrites. Two things, support of the murderous state of Israel and the ignorance of UN resolution against the Iraq War.

At least Egypt had the balls to not be intimidated by the Arab league. Go President Mubarak!

Mubarak is a dictator with no balls either. His decision was probably decided by his overlord who controls Egypt through massive annual financial aid.

WHAT OIL!! WHAT OIL?!?!? WE RAIDED OIL!?!?! WHERE IS IT THEN!?!?!? Where's that oil that we payed billions of tax dollars for ( actually, we are paying for it now because our government used borrowed money for all their toys)? I want my oil, dangnabbit. I've got my hummer right here, ready to go, waiting for my share of the free oil that we looted. Wait, what? We didn't get any oil? WTF? You said we got oil... well... where is it? I don't see my free oil. What I do see is the prices of oil going up everyday. Is George Bush keeping the oil secret?

Dont be stupid. USA did invade Iraq for safe oil supply. However, things didnt go as planned. So they will have to wait longer for their war booty.

[Nikos]

Mubarak is a dictator with no balls either. His decision was probably decided by his overlord who controls Egypt through massive annual financial aid.

While he is a dictator, he has done some good things for Egypt and it's minorities. He made Christmas a national holiday for the Copts in 2002 for example.

[ShADoW]

I am willing to bet that overwhelming majority of the forum member wont be able to even point out Sudan on the world map without googling it first.

lmao

What little respect I still had for the Arab League has just evaporated.

Lost your respect eh? I always though they were they were full of and cant do anything right.

[Primvs Sextvs Loverlord]

Ah, the wonderful impotence of international law!

How about the war crimes committed by other countries? Justice is no justice at all if everyone is not given the some justice. If the other war criminals go to court, no one will have any reason to defend the likes of the Sudanese ruler.

[Panzerbear]

Fail Arab league. What are they thinking? It's obvious the leaders in the Arab league don't care about the innocent civilians in Sudan, they just want to slap the West with this. Ridiculous, maybe if the Arab league criticized Sudan, instead of giving it comfort something could be done!

yeah, as if *you* all give a about Sudanese civilians. I am willing to bet that overwhelming majority of the forum member wont be able to even point out Sudan on the world map without googling it first.

the truth of the matter is that it is all arab world - let them handle their own problems. we have much more important things to worry about at this point. please also do not about international law, as Western countries have not been giving it too much regard either.

[Nikos]

yeah, as if *you* all give a about Sudanese civilians. I am willing to bet that overwhelming majority of the forum member wont be able to even point out Sudan on the world map without googling it first.

the truth of the matter is that it is all arab world - let them handle their own problems. we have much more important things to worry about at this point. please also do not about international law, as Western countries have not been giving it too much regard either.

I do give a about Sudanese civilians and I know where Sudan is on a map. I send money to IOCC and the Red cross to help in Darfur. Over 300,000 dead is important .czar, it's time for the world to do something.

[Arjun]

"We emphasis our solidarity with Sudan and our dismissal and rejection of the decision handed down by the International Criminal Court," Moussa quoted the communiqué as saying. He said that the decision to arrest Bashir was aimed "at undermining the unity and stability of Sudan".

Im Not surprised....what could one expect from such an organization...lol the fact that ones getting killed are poor native Africans and NOT the Arab/arab influenced ruling class of Sudan.

I do give a about Sudanese civilians and I know where Sudan is on a map. I send money to IOCC and the Red cross to help in Darfur. Over 300,000 dead is important .czar, it's time for the world to do something.

Well said Nikos.
Unlike certain people here; there are many who DO know where areas like Sudan, Tibet and Kudistan are. I find it insulting that just because some people do not know about these atrocities, we are supposed to turn a deaf ear.

[GuineaPig]

People are too busy railing against "Israeli war crimes" to bother about a couple hundred thousand Africans right now.

[Shadowcry]

Im Not surprised....what could one expect from such an organization...lol the fact that ones getting killed are poor native Africans and NOT the Arab/arab influenced ruling class of Sudan.

They are both black and African. The difference is the style of lifestyle not ethnicity that distinguishes them.

[Arjun]

They are both black and African. The difference is the style of lifestyle not ethnicity that distinguishes them.

The janjaweeed ARE Arabized black africans and/or Afro-Arabs

[Panzerbear]

I do give a about Sudanese civilians and I know where Sudan is on a map. I send money to IOCC and the Red cross to help in Darfur. Over 300,000 dead is important .czar, it's time for the world to do something.

Africa is a one ed up continent, there is no doubt about it. the thing is that, no matter what you donate and to who, there will be no piece in Sudan. just like there will be no piece in Middle East. hell, you are complaining about 300,000 dead, but think of how many people died since 2001 in the US-lead wars? a lot more than that. did anyone arrest US govt officials for crimes against humanity? why do you expect to see something completely different from Arabs? Bashir is one of their own, they wont arrest him.

[Arjun]

Africa is a one ed up continent, there is no doubt about it. the thing is that, no matter what you donate and to who, there will be no piece in Sudan. just like there will be no piece in Middle East. hell, you are complaining about 300,000 dead, but think of how many people died since 2001 in the US-lead wars? a lot more than that. did anyone arrest US govt officials for crimes against humanity? why do you expect to see something completely different from Arabs? Bashir is one of their own, they wont arrest him.

true. i agree with your part about the casualties caused by the iraq war

But the good news is that the Bush administration's officials are most probably going to be put on trial (there is a powerful motion in congress towards this end). EDIT: lol the iraq war is NOT in the same league as the Sudanese genocide though.


The reason such travesties of justice(iraq war, sudan, kosovo,srilanka, tibet) are happening is because no country is willing to be bothered to stand up against these things.....


Thats why im all for the empowerment of the international criminal justice court so it would have power over any mass criminal, regardless of where he lives

[Shadowcry]

Millions of civilians have died. The West nor anyone else has done anything, clearly indicating they do not care about Sudanese civilians. Nothing at all is going to happen. I know it is sad and defeatist but what are you going to do, that is how the world works. The poor, oiless, resourceless, waterless civilians in darfur have lost 300,000 of their sisters and brothers, and no nation is going to do anything. It is only individuals who do anything, nations pursue their own interests.

So no worries, its like this way with all genocides, we try to shrug off and not do anything when it counts, but just like like to assign blame once it is done.

[Nikos]

Millions of civilians have died. The West nor anyone else has done anything, clearly indicating they do not care about Sudanese civilians. Nothing at all is going to happen. I know it is sad and defeatist but what are you going to do, that is how the world works. The poor, oiless, resourceless, waterless civilians in darfur have lost 300,000 of their sisters and brothers, and no nation is going to do anything. It is only individuals who do anything, nations pursue their own interests.

So no worries, its like this way with all genocides, we try to shrug off and not do anything when it counts, but just like like to assign blame once it is done.

Unfortunately you're right. But this attitude has to change. If the world had a spine, things like this could be prevented. It sickens me that the world turns a blind eye to the crimes in Sudan and elsewhere. History will judge our inaction friends, it is up to us to pressure our governments and the governments of the world to do something. And quickly.

Africa is a one ed up continent, there is no doubt about it. the thing is that, no matter what you donate and to who, there will be no piece in Sudan. just like there will be no piece in Middle East. hell, you are complaining about 300,000 dead, but think of how many people died since 2001 in the US-lead wars? a lot more than that. did anyone arrest US govt officials for crimes against humanity? why do you expect to see something completely different from Arabs? Bashir is one of their own, they wont arrest him.

Why should US officials be charged with any crimes? The United States didn't kill all of those people. It's ridiculous to compare the Darfur Genocide to Afghanistan and Iraq. The United States does not and did not support mass killings in Iraq or Afghanistan. In Sudan the government turns a blind eye or supports the genocide. It's disgusting that the Arab league supports a genocidal dictator, Arab or not. Also, the death toll in Sudan has exceeded 450,000 now.

[Panzerbear]

Why should US officials be charged with any crimes? The United States didn't kill all of those people.

of course not. I am pretty sure it is reasonable to assume that American stealth bombers rained chocolate and fuzzy bears from the sky on their cities instead .

It's ridiculous to compare the Darfur Genocide to Afghanistan and Iraq.

but think at the big picture - no matter the intent or who names who "the bad guys", people do not care who and in the name of what kills their friends and relatives. where do you expect people to go when the bombs fall?

also, I am willing to suspect that president of Sudan is not exactly eating babies for breakfast either. you call it "turn a blind eye", they might call it "wtf can we do?". the devil is in the details, as usual. what would you rather have the Arabs do to Bashir? hang him, like Saddam was hanged after US occupation?

I also wish there was peace in Sudan. hell, I also hope they will eventually solve the world hunger. however, let us please not be utopian about it.