Gunmen Attack Police Academy in Pakistan

**Nikos** · March 30, 2009, 10:28 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...033000098.html

LAHORE, Pakistan, March 30 -- Gunmen armed with grenades and assault weapons invaded a police training compound near this Pakistani city Monday, battling security forces and holding dozens of police trainees hostage for more than seven hours before being overpowered.
There were conflicting reports about how many people were killed in the attack, although military and police commanders said at least eight police cadets and four assailants had died, and dozens injured. After army and police commandos stormed the rural compound about 4 p.m., the surviving attackers surrendered on a rooftop. No group has claimed responsibility for the assault.

It seems Pakistan is continuing to slide into lawlessness. Not good for the stability of the region.

**Babur** · March 30, 2009, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Nikos

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...033000098.html

It seems Pakistan is continuing to slide into lawlessness. Not good for the stability of the region.

Especially since Obama is trying to sort out the

in neighbouring Afghanistan

**Nikos** · March 30, 2009, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Chaghatai Khan

Especially since Obama is trying to sort out the

in neighbouring Afghanistan

Yeah, that's probably a contributing factor.

**fieldmarshal** · March 30, 2009, 10:34 AM

Harboring extremists has been costly for Pakistan, they are experiencing first hand the results of their support to these fundamentalists. I would say its about time Pakistan gets serious and take full control of their country, starting with banning all religious extremists groups and going after them with force.

**Babur** · March 30, 2009, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by fieldmarshal

Harboring extremists has been costly for Pakistan, they are experiencing first hand the results of their support to these fundamentalists. I would say its about time Pakistan gets serious and take full control of their country, starting with banning all religious extremists groups and going after them with force.

Yuh and those extremists were being harboured to be sent to fight in "Indian Occupied" Kashmir.

Well Pakistan could start by reining in the ISI for once

**fieldmarshal** · March 30, 2009, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Chaghatai Khan

Yuh and those extremists were being harbored to be sent to fight in "Indian Occupied" Kashmir.

Thats the delicious irony of this, they harbored and supported these extremists groups to fight India in Kashmir, but its them who have been attacked.

I don't think the geniuses in the Pakistani military thought though this properly. In essence its a good plan, well train these extremists, and fight India, who they hate.. a sound plan on the outside.
But they completely missed the wild card "Afghanistan", they assumed everything will be the same in Afghanistan, the Taliban will be control, and they are friendly towards Pakistan, plus the western regions of Pakistan serves as a training ground for extremists to be sent to India and other parts of the world. Well Bin Laden sure did mess up that balance

. Now Pakistan had to choose between the USA and the Taliban, and now they are paying the price for picking the USA, and fighting the same monster they themselves created.

Originally Posted by Chaghatai Khan

Well Pakistan could start by reining in the ISI for once

I dont think it can practically happen, since every country needs a Intelligence operation. If the ISI are disbanded, they will be replaced by another kind of ISI. I think they should just stop funding the ISI, because we know most this money goes to these extremists groups.

**Babur** · March 30, 2009, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by fieldmarshal

Thats the delicious irony of this, they harbored and supported these extremists groups to fight India in Kashmir, but its them who have been attacked.

I don't think the geniuses in the Pakistani military thought though this properly. In essence its a good plan, well train these extremists, and fight India, who they hate.. a sound plan on the outside.
But they completely missed the wild card "Afghanistan", they assumed everything will be the same in Afghanistan, the Taliban will be control, and they are friendly towards Pakistan, plus the western regions of Pakistan serves as a training ground for extremists to be sent to India and other parts of the world. Well Bin Laden sure did mess up that balance

. Now Pakistan had to choose between the USA and the Taliban, and now they are paying the price for picking the USA, and fighting the same monster they themselves created.

Very true man,I wonder what the future holds for Pakistan

and naturally the Indian government is extremely concerned about what is happening there.

I dont think it can practically happen, since every country needs a Intelligence operation. If the ISI are disbanded, they will be replaced by another kind of ISI. I think they should just stop funding the ISI, because we know most this money goes to these extremists groups.

Well that money will probably go into the pockets of politicans then

It's a no win situation

**Nikos** · March 30, 2009, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Chaghatai Khan

Yuh and those extremists were being harboured to be sent to fight in "Indian Occupied" Kashmir.

Well Pakistan could start by reining in the ISI for once

Do you think the federal government is even capable at this point to be able to reign in the ISI? From what I've read, the ISI has grown in power.

**The Longbowman** · March 30, 2009, 10:52 AM

If it's Police Academy 6 that they attacked then fair enough, but the earlier films were excellent and deserve better.

**Nikos** · March 30, 2009, 11:07 AM

That's exactly why this situation is so dangerous. Pakistan has nuclear weapons. If the state continues to descend into anarchy who knows what can happen? There are very radical elements inside of Pakistan who would love to get a hold of a nuclear weapon. If a terrorist group gets a nuclear weapon then God help us. If Pakistan continues to degrade, I would support an Indian takeover of Pakistan. there shouldn't have been any partition in the first place. Ever since India was partitioned the region has become unstable. It's a real shame.

**Babur** · March 30, 2009, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Nikos

That's exactly why this situation is so dangerous. Pakistan has nuclear weapons. If the state continues to descend into anarchy who knows what can happen? There are very radical elements inside of Pakistan who would love to get a hold of a nuclear weapon. If a terrorist group gets a nuclear weapon then God help us.

Indeed I would hate to think what they would do with one

.Then again one of their citizens ran the largest nuclear trafficking ring ever and yet he was hailed as a hero in Pakistan for spreading the "bomb"

A map of nuclear related facilities in Pakistan:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

If Pakistan continues to degrade, I would support an Indian takeover of Pakistan. there shouldn't have been any partition in the first place. Ever since India was partitioned the region has become unstable. It's a real shame.

yes I completely agree,Pakistan has been severely mismanaged over the past 60 years.Journalists from the UK produced a report on the Swat region and the locals said that they preferred the Taliban to the Pakistani government,since they had felt neglected by Islamabad for all those years.

**~~removeduser_052420~~** · March 30, 2009, 05:47 PM

As long as that dumbass Zardari is in power, i don't think it's gonna improve much. If only Imran Khan was president

Originally Posted by Nikos

That's exactly why this situation is so dangerous. Pakistan has nuclear weapons. If the state continues to descend into anarchy who knows what can happen? There are very radical elements inside of Pakistan who would love to get a hold of a nuclear weapon. If a terrorist group gets a nuclear weapon then God help us. If Pakistan continues to degrade, I would support an Indian takeover of Pakistan. there shouldn't have been any partition in the first place. Ever since India was partitioned the region has become unstable. It's a real shame.

Indian Takeover of Pakistan? Well, if India ever attempted that, it better be ready for a lot of "terrorists"...

**Babur** · March 30, 2009, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by pspguy123

As long as that dumbass Zardari is in power, i don't think it's gonna improve much. If only Imran Khan was president

Indian Takeover of Pakistan? Well, if India ever attempted that, it better be ready for a lot of "terrorists"...

more like thieves

**~~removeduser_052420~~** · March 30, 2009, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Chaghatai Khan

more like thieves

**Shadowcry** · March 30, 2009, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by pspguy123

As long as that dumbass Zardari is in power, i don't think it's gonna improve much. If only Imran Khan was president

Indian Takeover of Pakistan? Well, if India ever attempted that, it better be ready for a lot of "terrorists"...

Imran Khan? Lol yeah he shall use his sexiness and cricket skillz to get us back on track!

Indian takeover of Pakistan? Jesus is more likely to come and save everyone alogn with Buddha, Moses, and Vishnu than that happening.

**Thema'zandaar** · March 30, 2009, 05:00 PM

There's a difference between these attacks and the type that fundamentalist extremists carry out. The attackers were well-armed and equipped and very prepared. They used tactics almost military-style in nature to infiltrate, surround and seige the facility. I don't believe that the same fundamentalists Pakistan is fighting in the western regions is responsible for this. I believe it is more likely that these fighters were from the same group that attacked the Sri Lankan team in Lahore with the objective of kidnapping them. They might be related to the LTTE or might be foreign fighters altogether. Whatever the case, we'll soon know since 3 or 4 of them have been captured.

**The Fish** · March 30, 2009, 05:18 PM

One thing can be certain: Pakistan's government will surely not waste this opportunity to beg for more (military) handouts to fight "extremists." First on the list? AMRAAMs and SAMs, the better with which to take on the great Taliban Air Force.

**Babur** · March 30, 2009, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by The Fish

One thing can be certain: Pakistan's government will surely not waste this opportunity to beg for more (military) handouts to fight "extremists." First on the list? AMRAAMs and SAMs, the better with which to take on the great Taliban Air Force.

and those "handouts" will probably be deployed along the LoC (Line of Control) in Kashmir