The capabilities of Big Brother

[Valiant Champion]

Just what are the abilities of today's agencies and their software in scouring the internet for possible threats.

How capable are the web crawlers?

How is the survellience operations structured from software to agents to leadership?

[Armfelt]

Big Brother's greatest weapon against the people is the "reality" tv show by the same name, it passifies people and stops their thought.

[Scar Face]

Big Brother's greatest weapon against the people is the "reality" tv show by the same name, it passifies people and stops their thought.

Watch yourself buddy. That show is ****ing good.

[Mr. Pink]

Watch yourself buddy. That show is ****ing good.

Tony Montana is turning in his grave at your comments, God rest his soul

[Scar Face]

Tony Montana is turning in his grave at your comments, God rest his soul

psh, luckily im not named after THAT Scarface and I don't care.

I'm named after a rtw family member who was given that nickname in vanilla like 4 years ago in one of my campaigns...yeah im not creative.

[ShADoW]

Sorry, but like what are we talking about in this thread?

[roy34543]

Surveillance agencies, Are much. Much . Much better then youd think, Theyre probably monitering nearly everything you say no to try and find if you put any words liek "terrorist" "Bomb" "school" and "Al-Queada" "allahu adkbar" together . They pretend that theyre not very good at it and try and pass legaslation which they dont need to moniter stuff to disguise the fact that they can do it perfectly well.
Of course theres no garuntee that terrorists will be caught on the internet, but its pretty likely.

[Valiant Champion]

My theory on how it works.

There is a hiarchy of web crawler programs.

The lowest level picks up on practically any word that would suggest violence.

This program hands the dialogue to the next level program which looks for word combinations.

The next level is a logic program that looks for certian indicators that suggest the dialogue shows "features" of maliscious intent.

Once the dialogue fails inspection of the web crawler echelon it is then passed on to a human agent who will use human intuition to determine the threat of the dialogue.

After this ,agents are then sent to investigate the individuals involved.

Apparently determining the source of web dialogue isn't as much of a problem as you would think ,as interpol can usually home right in on a source. The only people they usually can't catch are ones in states such as China or Iran where the reach of Interpol is leashed.

[Captain Jin]

You don't want to know just how good the technology is for surveillance. Not just on computers but in general. It's way better than you think.

[Zephyrus]

You don't want to know just how good the technology is for surveillance. Not just on computers but in general. It's way better than you think.

Is Enemy Of the State an accurate movie to parallel your statement with?

[Captain Jin]

Is Enemy Of the State an accurate movie to parallel your statement with?

I'll just say some of the whacky things in movies that seem unbelievable are not so unbelievable.

[Valiant Champion]

How do they filter through all the terror related chatter to the point that human agents can take on the work load?

Actually we do need to know what survellience capablities are. I would hate to think that by mentioning the word BOMB my dialogue will get flagged. There has to be a balance in the sensitivity of these web crawlers.

[Captain Jin]

How many posters on this site say screwed up things and then disappear forever? 0. I think the web crawlers aren't too sensitive.

[CtrlAltDe1337]

How many posters on this site say screwed up things and then disappear forever? 0. I think the web crawlers aren't too sensitive.

Watch yourself, the FBI may come knocking on your door soon

[Valiant Champion]

Well yes I agree with that.

Can survellience evidence be used in a court of law? Aren't they supposed to get some kind of warrant before they can tap a phone line? I understand that wireless signals are supposed to be easier for them to listen to legally.

What powers specifically did the Patriot act give the FBI to violate our privacy?

[C-Rob]

they could start looking at what you are typing right now if you wanted. If you have a mac, they could see your face.

I dont' know how sensitive the crawlers are at finding people to monitor for bad activities, but I do know that once they do, they will, and very well.

[dogukan]

the propoganda is already as effective....."us" or "them" also works fine.
About privacy....well I know in my country they can listen to everyone through cell phones even when they're turned off. I'm pretty sure it's like that in the USA. That patriot act also plays a big role on "watching people and making them dissapear" as far as I know.

[Desperado †]

Britain has the most CCTV in the world, yet it rarely catches criminals and takes a lot of watching to deduct any evidence. If was a suspect or a government threat, I could naturally be shadowed the old fashioned way, but even then I'd feel fairly safe within our justice system. Pondered and passed laws such as identity cards, DNA databases and 28 days scare me though, and I feel far safer here than I would in America for the torture reasons.

It's stuff like this that makes me praise the house of lords. For an unelected body, they have done far more to protect our liberties than the commons.

[Valiant Champion]

I don't have a web cam and I use a landline to talk on. Even my phone is wired to the receiver. Which doesn't mean anything really as I am not talking about anything controversial.

Wouldn't terrorists use some type of code when discussing their next terror attack?

I mean more than likely most of the communication that uses many of the words that could be interpreted as terror words are used everyday or may be used to discuss a movie or a historical battle.

They have to look for word combinations I suppose. But these combinations have to have some pretty high criteria to be flagged or else they will checking up on at least a million Americans a day.

[masliko]

I don't have a web cam and I use a landline to talk on. Even my phone is wired to the receiver. Which doesn't mean anything really as I am not talking about anything controversial.

Wouldn't terrorists use some type of code when discussing their next terror attack?

I mean more than likely most of the communication that uses many of the words that could be interpreted as terror words are used everyday or may be used to discuss a movie or a historical battle.

They have to look for word combinations I suppose. But these combinations have to have some pretty high criteria to be flagged or else they will checking up on at least a million Americans a day.

mate,the US gov is adding 100,000 people a year to its terrorist databases.Eventually you WILL be on it.Everyone will be.(or the equivelent to your countries policy)You can be put on it for smokin pot.This is about control,along with climate credits....man.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...ror-watch.html

FBI wants palm prints, eye scans, tattoo mapping

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/04/f...ics/index.html