Racial Discrimination: your technical problem depends on your race.

[Clefable]

Ok, it seems E:tw practices racial discrimination. The bugs I get depend on the nation I am playing.

Summary:
If you are German, you wont be able to load your save games.
If you are English, you wont be able to see your save games.

Long story:

So I got empire total war. Being a noob about the new naval warfare and trade theatres, I decided to play one of the most land based nations, Prussia.

While playing the Prussians, I made several saved games, including one made immediately at the start, before any action was taken. After some playing, I had to quit the game to get some sleep.

On the next day, I tried to load my saved files. None of them worked. The loading bar loads to the end, but nothing else happens. The game just stays there, gun fire ringing out in the distance.

So I decided to see if it was a problem with the game being unable to load save files at all. I started a new campaign as Britain. I made another virgin save, before any action had been taken. I also made a save before the end of the first, second, third, fourth and fifth turns.

Then I tried to see if I could load the British save files. Trying to load from the main menu, I got the grey screen of death. None of the save files were visible, and I was unable to exit the load menu.

No problem, I thought, I know how to solve this. I restarted the game, clicked continue campaign. The campaign load menu was blank, but I could leave it. I did a control-s to quick save, and that allowed my save games to reappear in the load menu.

I tried to load all the British save games, and they all loaded just fine.

I tried to load the Prussian save games, the game stalls in the loading screen, just like before.

In conclusion, it is my hypothesis that e:tw practices racial discrimination, assigning different technical problems of varying severity based on the race of the people in the save files.

p.s, this post is meant to be funny and not offensive in anyway, while reflecting the fustration that I am facing.

[Hilarion]

I fail to see how this is racial discrimination.

[Groove74]

I fail to see how this is racial discrimination.

I 2nd that. But it dose sound like a common issue that has been coverd. Have you tried checking your save game folder to see if the files are still there? heres path for vista:


its hidden, allow to show hidden files/folders

its stored in c:\users\username\appdata\thecreativeassembly\saves

[Clefable]

To repeat once more what I said,

1) When I save games as Prussia, and have no other save games, my save games do not disappear. However, I am unable to load the Prussian save games. I can see them, the loading screen appears, the loading bar moves to the end, and stays there.

2) The moment I make a British save game, my save games disappear. I start a new campaign, or use the continue campaign button to load british save game, make a quick save, and the save games are visible again.

3) Using the above trick to make save games visible, the British save games are able to load, but not the Prussian save games.

4) Deleting the British save games means the save games become visible again, no need for making quick saves. However, the Prussian save games are still not loading properly.

[Groove74]

what you are running into ia a known issue with the quick save and load it has been reported to currupt the save files. this could be whats causing your Loading issue. It is best to avoid using the Quicksave/load and just manage you own personal save files. for example. say you save a game under your name use that save file for like 10 turns then create a new save under a different name. do this and then when you end your playtime use the path I gave ya to delete all but you last 2 most recent save files. taking care to delete the autosave file. I have been doing this and have had zero saving loading problems.

[Clefable]

Ok, lets simplify things even more.

1) I deleted all my save games.
2) Started a new campaign as prussia.
3) Immediately, without doing anything or ending any turns, I made a save file, "aaa".
4) I quit to the main menu, and try to load the "aaa" save file.
5) The loading bar fills up, reaches the end, but the game doesnt actually load the campaign map. It is stuck at the loading screen.

6) I delete the save file, "aaa".
7) I start a new campaign as the British.
8) I make a new save file, "bbb".
9) I quit to the main menu and try to load the save file "bbb".
10) The save file, "bbb", loads perfectly well.

[Groove74]

well I would say if File BBB worked fine and file aaa did not. I would venture a guess and say aaa was currupt. I my self have not had the loading bar get that far and stop. in most cases for me when a file currpted I would get a CDT or it would just freeze up all togather.

[Shaio]

^ i think he knows the save is corrupt, the point is he has saves with Prussia reliably corrupt and be unloadable. (100% of the time??) while british ones reliably cause saves to go invisible.

Do you have these problem with other factions or is it limited to playing prussia/great britian?

[Clefable]

^ i think he knows the save is corrupt, the point is he has saves with Prussia reliably corrupt and be unloadable. (100% of the time??) while british ones reliably cause saves to go invisible.

Do you have these problem with other factions or is it limited to playing prussia/great britian?

1) Prussia becomes corrupt 100% of the time.
2) British saves AFTER turn one used to reliably cause saves to go invisible. Just got the March 26th Patch which resolves this problem.

Have been trying out a few others. United colonies, Austria seem to be fine.

[Supernaut2k]

i think your point is merely that of coincidence, rather than that of discrimination.

[Brusilov]

How can the British (anglo-saxon stock amongst other things) be a different race than Prussians?

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*sigh*

[Jihada]

Omg Brusilov..he's joking .

[Brusilov]

Omg Brusilov..he's joking .

It's a technical help forum not a chat or joke forum.

[Clefable]

I am asking for technical help. I am just pointing out that I find the technical issues I am facing somewhat funny.

Once more, I point out that:
If playing Britain, using the March 25th patch, my save files disappear.
If playing Prussia, under any patch, my save files become unloadable.
These are genuine technical issues that I need help with (the save files disappearing when playing Britain has been resolved with the latest patch though).
However, my "joke" is that the technical problems depend on the nation played, almost as if the game engine is discriminating between the nations when it wants to hand out bugs and technical problems.

[Elrond]

I think the technical reason for the issue has been addressed - this thread has too higher chance of becoming purely spam - thread closed - pm me if you have a valid reason for me to reopen it - Elrond