Ally attacks through my siege and takes city.

**BigB** · March 25, 2009, 07:18 PM

I had a city under siege for 2 turns. My ally (Russia) marches up with an army and attacks the city through my siege. The battle starts, I turn into the reinforcing army, and Russia turns into the attacking army. We win the battle and Russia gets the city.

Thats just wrong.

**Archimonday** · March 25, 2009, 07:25 PM

Again, reminds me of the crusades, those tricky Byzantines, how dare they steal from the crusaders!

**Garbarsardar** · March 25, 2009, 07:25 PM

That is the revenge of the AI for one million cities taken by the human player the same way in RTW and M2TW. Just browse through the AARs and you will see countless tales of "blasting the walls" and "patiently waiting for your ally to clean up the mess".

**upsettingshorts** · March 25, 2009, 07:44 PM

I get around this problem by not having allies. All they do is drag me into wars I don't want!

**Thanatos** · March 25, 2009, 07:50 PM

Thread moved to Gameplay and Strategy Discussion. PM me if you have any questions. - Thanatos

**Hafnium** · March 25, 2009, 08:00 PM

There seems to be a lot of these annoyances, not good. :/

When playing yesterday, I had sent a few fleets packed with troops to a rebel region in India (which had belonged to Portugal, and gone rebel when Spain gobbled up Portugal, which makes me think whether they had that region from the start, had moved troops through all that land, OR had made a naval invasion?!).
Pardon that.. anyway, I had landed a full army close to the regions city, which was attacked by a single unit of line infantry belonging to the Marathas. The enemy was only 1/3 of a stack, and I was pulled in as reinforcement due to my alliance with Marathas. My allies wasted no time in rushing to get murdered, and I wiped the floor with the disorganised and outclassed enemy.

The turn then came to me, and I see the defeated army of the Marathas has gotten possession (sp?) of the region, and because we did not have an agreement of military access, my very helpful army was kicked out. And not just kicked out to the fleet they had come on, which was still at the coast, but TELEPORTED all the way back to East Prussia instantly.

Btw, I reloaded to avoid that idiocy, and it seems the patch also screwed my game. Finished one naval battle and it crashed, and it's barely crashed at all before. :/

**Hellman109** · March 26, 2009, 12:08 AM

^^ I new the Prussians cheated!

Wasnt it in previous games the one with the most troops took ownership?

**J. Fishman** · March 26, 2009, 05:07 AM

You know the AI does this deliberately and always has, even in Medieval. If you end up being summoned as a reinforcement army by an AI ally, be as unhelpful as possible and wait patiently for the battle to timeout. Artillery will let you be even outright counterproductive.

**Hafnium** · March 26, 2009, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by J. Fishman

You know the AI does this deliberately and always has, even in Medieval. If you end up being summoned as a reinforcement army by an AI ally, be as unhelpful as possible and wait patiently for the battle to timeout. Artillery will let you be even outright counterproductive.

Good thinking there, I could basically murder my allies with deliberate "careless" friendly fire.

In this case however they were in no need of help of getting killed..

As said before I just reloaded, put the army back on the boats, and then the buggers couldn't take advantage of me, and the city can be taken over by me now.

I also made sure to get military access so it wouldn't happen again.

**BigB** · March 26, 2009, 10:49 AM

I guess the more important question is, is it a bug or a feature?

If the army wasnt my ally would the same thing have happened?

If a city is under siege should any different army be able to march up and take the initiative and attack the city and take control of it?

I have the same question about when you are intercepted and you are the one who has to go on the offensive. Is it a bug or a feature? If the enemy intercepts you, are you supposed to be on the offensive in the battle and lose if the battle timer runs out?

**zligor** · March 26, 2009, 02:05 PM

That`s hilarious

. Happened to me once, too. I held Amsterdam under siege, playing as France, waiting for Dutch offer to became protectorate

and then Westphalia, my ally, marches right thru my siege and occupies the city, destroying United Provinces in the process. Even worse, they had my help in that battle

. One of great wt* moments in ETW. I waited for that province to rebel (so I could capture it) but that never happened.

**Ulysseslotro** · March 26, 2009, 02:59 PM

During my first game I was sieging Hannover when Sweden came and took it. I was like you bastard lol. I thought about going to war with them, then I checked the trade menu and saw I was earning 40k off them. So I was like, take it.