I hear about people earning in the 300,000s and more. How?

[foolfromhell]

It's 1748, medium difficulty (first playthrough) and I have all of Indias, Britain, Netherlands, Guyanas, Trinidad&Tobago, Gibraltar, and Morocco along with 80% of all the trade spots. I am only pulling 30,000/turn on medium taxes and 10,000/turn on lowest taxes. How do people earn 300,000/turn? I have 6 ports in India, 3 in Americas, and I just conquered England and all the ports are wartime ports (for ships) so no trade yet.

What's going on?

[The Count(er)]

from what I hear, the people earning insane amounts of income have a pirated version of the game with a bug, that give 10 times the trade income it should

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

from what I hear, the people earning insane amounts of income have a pirated version of the game with a bug, that give 10 times the trade income it should

Not neccessarily pirated. It does that with normal unpatched as well.

[Kip]

Hahaha busted.

[foolfromhell]

Ah. Okay. I thought I was playing the game completely wrongly.

[Engrish]

I'm pulling in around 150,000 year 1760s from Great Britain. I own all of India, North Africa, and the Eastern Seaboard of North America and Caribbean. Best advice I can give you is industrialize early and trade often. I don't even have more than a handful of tradeships either.

Biggest trade partner is around 50K per turn with Sweden.

[Hellman109]

Yeah Ive seen people say they are getting stupid amounts from some goods (upto 500 per unit) which allows that to happen.

[Rorarii]

Gee, i hope this game doesn't turn into a race to the most advanced nation! that will screw it!

R

[fluffstalker]

Once you feel your secure, that is your not at war with a lot of people, slowly convert most of your wartime ports into trade ports, and use your n avy to patrol your routes. This'll help increase theincome, though it does take a real long time to see the benefits.

As for receiving 300 000 either its really late game and your on a roll or they've got a bugged version.

[iamtehsuck]

So i opened my Britain 1799 saved game in which i had controlled every region and saw that I was pulling down 200k from taxes with about 1/3 of the regions tax exempt and taxes generally at the second lowest setting. I unexempted all regions that were exempt and bumped all the taxes up to the middle setting and it went up to 320k (no trade of course since there is no one to trade with). 500k at highest taxes. These numbers are before adding in the expenses and could be higher I'm sure if I took the time to upgrade wealth during the last 20 years but since there was nothing to do but get to 1800 I just lowered taxes and kept hitting end turn.

On a side note, if you capture all the regions would it be that hard to just end the campaign there instead of making you finish it doing nothing but worrying about happiness levels? I guess once you have the achievements for beating the campaign there would be no reason to finish it anyway but still...

[sanch]

Playing as the British on N/N

I'm getting 200,000 per turn - 150,000 from taxes. I have all but the bottom right two regions in the America theatre and all but three regions in India under my contol. All regions are paying tax at medium.

Also 90% of my ports are at their maximum trading port building (Commercial basin I think).

I am using about 150,000 on my armies though !

[zerathule]

As the french with all of the american theater, all of india + persia, north africa, Italy and all the german minors, (except Courland), i earn 180K with around 10 full stack elite armies and around a hundred 3rd and 1st rates.

[Gornard]

I heard you could do it using trade monopolies. By owning the vast majority of a particular resource and having only a single trade partner. Since only one nation has access to the resource, the price of it will sky rocket. So you can earn insane amounts of money from a single partner.

I never tried it as it verges on an exploit

[iamtehsuck]

I heard you could do it using trade monopolies. By owning the vast majority of a particular resource and having only a single trade partner. Since only one nation has access to the resource, the price of it will sky rocket. So you can earn insane amounts of money from a single partner.

I never tried it as it verges on an exploit

I'm pretty sure I had to be in that situation at some point in my GB campaign as I at some point controlled all the trade theaters and the entire india and american theaters. As I moved through Europe, my trade partners at some point had to be reduced to only one left and I only ever noticed my trade income decreasing as i went to war with more and more trade partners. Could be wrong.

Has anyone ever been able to get their trade income equal to the income going into/out of their home port? My total trade income never seems to get above 75 percent of the value I see when mousing over that trade route and in my UP campaign I had a ton of trade partners.

[eatme]

Dunno about 300k+
But if you have colonies in different continents, buncha trade ports, manufacture the goods that you don't get from trade posts and trade all this with as many nations as you can then money flows!

[thebrains29]

i'm getting 250,000 per turn, but then again i do own all of america, all of india and half of coastal and continental europe so my earnings are justified

[Walternat0r]

Getting 55-60k with GB, 1745 at the moment. I have Uk (obv), france belguim, Wuttermburg, Spain Port all of Italy bar Genoa, Malta, Sicily, N. Africa, And i'm slowly gobbling up N. America (Have all far northern territories, slowly working down the mainland and island hopping from the south). I have 5 full stacks of troops, maybe 6.5 total stacks of units (Wuttermburg has almost full stack, Bavaria are being dicks). I have trade rights with everyone I can, which is ~9 people and 2 full stacks of Indiaman on trade zones. Trading doesn't bring me much monies to be honest its all about taxes with me.

[Switch]

To the OP, a few things:

What's your ratio of trade ports to military ports? It should be something like 10/1. I have only four military ports in the whole of America (I control all but a few rebel regions in the north, remnants of the extinct French empire), and five in Europe (I control all of Western Europe, Britain, Scandinavia and have a few territories on the North African Coast). I have similar numbers of fisheries. All the rest are Global Trading Companies. While obviously few of these are running at full capacity in terms of trade routes, they add a hefty whack to Region Wealth. Have as many commericial ports as you can.

Expanding on the point of region wealth: You can afford to have the majority of Towns in your provinces generating money. Some well-placed Happiness buildings are often necessary, the odd church helps for restless and heretical new conquests and you definitely want a few universities, but other than that there's no reason you shouldn't be overflowing with plantations and steam-powered workshops. Furthermore it's absolutely essential that all your territories develop all potential towns - grant them immunity from taxes and build a fishery to stimulate growth, then once towns start popping up, build a load of Wealth-generating buildings and convert the fisheries to commericial ports.

You'll also want to industrialise. Don't neglect industrial and relevant philosophical advancements in favour of military technologies (however essential military technologies are) - being able to build top-tier industrial buildings will increase the amount of money rolling in no end.

In terms of trade, I've actually found myself not needing to occupy too many Trade Region spaces - I have only three. More important is to get as many trade partners as you can, even if you have to throw money at them. The earlier the better, as the bonuses you get for longstanding trade relationships are considerable.

Finally you'll want to keep an eye on military expenditure. Keep garrisons limited to a few units in cities. If you share a border with a hostile nation, it's better to keep a single land army in the area that can move about to respond to threats rather than fully garrisoning every single city. In general, bigger armies should only be raised when you need them - raise a few stacks or however many you can afford in order to pursue a war and conquer some territory, but once the war is concluded disband the armies. They'll only sit there eating away at your precious money sacks.

Try all that and see what it does for your income.. I'm in a M/M game as Britain, and since about 1760 I've been taking in well over 100K a turn, even with almost a dozen full stack land armies and more ship-of-the-line fleets than you can shake an admiral at. I've fully researched everything in the game and only a handful of territories don't have all possible towns developed with the highest level of building possible in them. I have more money than I know what to do with (around 2 million even with wanton creation of armies and buying the odd province off another nation at several hundred thousand a pop).

Hope those tips are of use. If you're already doing all of that I don't know what to say.. you'd have to post some screenshots of your various economy screens so we can do a proper audit!

[Gamey]

I'm pulling in about 200,000 as Great Britain but that is probably because I only have about 4 military docks, no fisheries, and I own all of North America and half of Europe in the year 1763. As the guy above said balance out your military and trade docks. except for Boston, London, Berlin, and Denmark all of my docks are trade ports (I also have fewer than 40 troop regiments) that is about 38 trade ports. Plus I have blockaded just about every enemy port in the game and I have hundreds of India men In every trade theater.

[Stildawn]

I only got the game last night, how do you change your ports to commercial or military?