Why do Austrian line infantry units have more men?

[willh90]

the title basically says it all, Why do Austrian line infantry units have more men?

i noticed that austrian line infatry units have 200 men in them and all other factions have 160 men in their line infantry (that is if unit scale is set to ultra) and i was wondering why this is?

...was the austrian army particualry large? any ideas welcome...

[The_Reckoner]

because they are weaker than other nation's infantry, though not as weak as russia's I believe.

[willh90]

thanks

[Shadow8]

because they are weaker than other nation's infantry, though not as weak as russia's I believe.

for real?

[Tacgnol]

because they are weaker than other nation's infantry, though not as weak as russia's I believe.

Russian infantry is not weak it has awsome hand to hand stats which is also what they are meant to be used for: one volley then bayonet charge

[Kewpur]

They actually did have more men in real life in their regiments I think.

[Varaaki]

They have 5 points less in Accuracy and Reload and 1 point less in Morale than most other line infantry.

[Jss6689]

Austrian Line Infanrty have 150 men.
Most other nations have 120 men.

The upkeep for Austrian regiments is slightly larger.
The stats are a little different.

[Hellman109]

There is a table around with all the stats.

In general...
British and Prussian infantry are best at ranged combat
Russian best at melee (but suck at ranged)
And Austrians have more men as you know

[Landur]

There is a table around with all the stats.

In general...
British and Prussian infantry are best at ranged combat
Russian best at melee (but suck at ranged)
And Austrians have more men as you know

Check your stats again, mate; Russia is the worst European Faction in ETW both in melee and ranged.

[Landur]

So Russia should have 250 men to counter their weaknesses

[Mikelus Trento]

Why don't the french have 300?

[upsettingshorts]

Why don't the Americans have M16s?

[Heinz Guderian]

Why don't the Americans have M16s?

lol

[ThePianist]

Russians should have improved melee stats, better than the other factions


Suvorov simplifies complex drills and emphasized physical stamina for rapid movements. He granted subordinate commanders independence to maneuver their units and to exploit advantages. Suvorov also disdained the typical siege mentality of the time and expounded the theory that the army would sustain fewer casualties in an immediate attack than it would through disease during a prolonged siege. He advocated close, violent combat and stated, "The bullet is a fool, the bayonet a fine fellow."

In April 1773, Suvorov tested his methods in the attack of the fortress of Turtukai in the early stages of the First Russo-Turkish War. Decorated for bravery and promoted to lieutenant general, Suvorov overwhelmed the Turkish stronghold of Kozludjii the following year even though his forces were outnumbered five to one.



Suvorov taught his soldiers the "through attack" (or "attack through") with the bayonet for infantry, and the equivalent with lance or sabre for cavalry. The attackers did not stop to trade blows (as is usually portrayed in the movies), but instead tried to rush through the enemy line whether or not they hit their opponents. It is easy to imagine the effect on the enemy's organization and morale.
The drills for this tactic sometimes caused serious injuries and even fatalities, although the soldiers turned their weapons away when they closed with the opposing drill line. The casualties resulted from collisions, especially between galloping cavalry. The drills also, however, removed the soldiers' (and horses') natural fear of massed bayonets so, in battle, they triumphed over opponents not so drilled. See Philip Longworth, The Art of Victory, if you can find a copy; it is out of print

Why don't the french have 300?

Because France was the prime military power ever since Louis 14, and throughout 1700s and 1800s (until rise of Prussia in 1870), whenever people needed the best soldiers and military advisors in the world, they got some from France. The Japanese did for the Meiji era, the Americans did for the 1776 Revolution.


Unclear why the Austrians have more people per unit, but maybe it's because other than the Ottoman Empire, it's the only multi-national country. They have Austrians, Germans, Hungarians, and Southern Slavs (Serbs, Bosnians, Croats, Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes) and probably Albanians and some Greeks as well. And Hebrews. And Italians from the northern half of Tyrol.

[Zeboim]

Russian line infantry have the largest Charge bonus. So that first crash is harder than any other faction's. Their melee attacks are the same as everyone else's, they just lack melee defense.

So Russian line infantry are the best at acting like Cavalry - charge, disengage, charge, disengage. The problem is that doing that in this game is stupid and the pathfinding and way the units act make it utterly impossible to have a unit act that coherent.

[Andivh]

Russians should have improved melee stats, better than the other factions


Suvorov simplifies complex drills and emphasized physical stamina for rapid movements. He granted subordinate commanders independence to maneuver their units and to exploit advantages. Suvorov also disdained the typical siege mentality of the time and expounded the theory that the army would sustain fewer casualties in an immediate attack than it would through disease during a prolonged siege. He advocated close, violent combat and stated, "The bullet is a fool, the bayonet a fine fellow."

In April 1773, Suvorov tested his methods in the attack of the fortress of Turtukai in the early stages of the First Russo-Turkish War. Decorated for bravery and promoted to lieutenant general, Suvorov overwhelmed the Turkish stronghold of Kozludjii the following year even though his forces were outnumbered five to one.



Suvorov taught his soldiers the "through attack" (or "attack through") with the bayonet for infantry, and the equivalent with lance or sabre for cavalry. The attackers did not stop to trade blows (as is usually portrayed in the movies), but instead tried to rush through the enemy line whether or not they hit their opponents. It is easy to imagine the effect on the enemy's organization and morale.
The drills for this tactic sometimes caused serious injuries and even fatalities, although the soldiers turned their weapons away when they closed with the opposing drill line. The casualties resulted from collisions, especially between galloping cavalry. The drills also, however, removed the soldiers' (and horses') natural fear of massed bayonets so, in battle, they triumphed over opponents not so drilled. See Philip Longworth, The Art of Victory, if you can find a copy; it is out of print

I believe Frederick the Great noted that Russia was a particularly devastating enemy because their soldiers were too stupid to realize when to run away.

Wouldn't shock me.

[formulapower]

Because France was the prime military power ever since Louis 14, and throughout 1700s and 1800s (until rise of Prussia in 1870), whenever people needed the best soldiers and military advisors in the world, they got some from France. The Japanese did for the Meiji era, the Americans did for the 1776 Revolution.

I thought Baron von Steubenof Prussia in 1778 was most noted for Europe-izing the fighting style of the American Revolution Armies???

[Unwelcome Guest]

I thought Baron von Steubenof Prussia in 1778 was most noted for Europe-izing the fighting style of the American Revolution Armies???

Not to mention, the Meiji Revolution era was also around the time of the rise of Germany, and Japan too got military advisors from Germany.

[Caliburn]

Unclear why the Austrians have more people per unit, but maybe it's because other than the Ottoman Empire, it's the only multi-national country. They have Austrians, Germans, Hungarians, and Southern Slavs (Serbs, Bosnians, Croats, Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes) and probably Albanians and some Greeks as well. And Hebrews. And Italians from the northern half of Tyrol.

Members of southern Slavic nations were organized in appropriate units made entirely of one nation, and were not mixed.
Actually, Austria should have largest unit rooster with some of more exotic units in the game.
Anyway, I think the reason that Austria has more men per regiment is a programmers error, or we would expect Russia and Ottomans to have similar boost.