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    Russian subs may be used to back Arctic claims
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS



    MOSCOW - Russia could use navy submarines to help claim and protect resources in the disputed Arctic region, a top admiral was quoted as saying Monday.

    Vice-Admiral Oleg Burtsev told the RIA Novosti news agency that submarines from Russia's Northern Fleet could be involved in efforts to stake Russia's claim to the polar region.

    Russia, the United States, Canada and other northern countries are trying to assert jurisdiction over the Arctic, which is believed to contain huge oil and natural gas reserves.

    In 2007, two Russian civilian mini-submarines descended to the Arctic seabed to collect geologic and water samples and drop a titanium canister containing the Russian flag.

    Burtsev, the Russian navy's deputy chief of staff, was quoted as saying authorities hadn't decided yet whether to use robotic underwater vehicles or submarines to stake claims on the Arctic shelf.

    "In any case, Northern Fleet submarines will be used to either explore or protect Arctic territories adjacent to Russia," he was quoted as saying.
    Burtsev added that Russian submariners have vast experience in making cruises under the polar ice as part of their combat training, the report said.

    The 2007 Russian mission exacerbated the controversy over an area that is believed to contain as much as 25 per cent of the world's undiscovered oil and gas. The dispute has intensified amid growing evidence that global warming is shrinking polar ice, opening up new shipping lanes and resource development possibilities.

    Russian officials said that more missions were needed to gather evidence to support the claim that an underwater mountain range crossing the polar region is part of Russia's continental shelf.

    Russia first submitted the claim in 2001 to the United Nations, but it was rejected for lack of evidence.
    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/20...856291-ap.html
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    Sucks for them if they break down then...
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    Norway were there first. It's ours. No sub can change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishoss View Post
    Norway were there first. It's ours. No sub can change that.
    You guys have enough already. Move over..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneboy View Post
    You guys have enough already. Move over..
    Not really, if you guys give back every land you "got" from us over the past 600 years then maybe.
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    Ah, excellent, our submarines are getting rather bored. 26 years is long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe ♠ kb8 View Post
    Ah, excellent, our submarines are getting rather bored. 26 years is long enough.
    What do "your" subs have to do with it?

    Or do you also need to shadow Russian subs when they make scientific charts of what is likely their own continental shell?

    What's next? shooting down Russian weather balloons for making scientific reading of the skies above Russia?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    What do "your" subs have to do with it?
    MOSCOW - Russia could use navy submarines to help claim and protect resources in the disputed Arctic region, a top admiral was quoted as saying Monday. Russia, the United States, Canada and other northern countries are trying to assert jurisdiction over the Arctic, which is believed to contain huge oil and natural gas reserves.
    Or do you also need to shadow Russian subs when they make scientific charts of what is likely their own continental shell?
    Their ''continent shell'' is connected to every other ''continental shell''.

    What's next? shooting down Russian weather balloons for making scientific reading of the skies above Russia?
    Above Russia? no. Above disputed resource free rich land? still no. Because nowhere did I say ''shoot'' anything whatsoever.

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    All you peeps hating on Russia cos they got an independent foreign policy.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    All you peeps hating on Russia cos they got an independent foreign policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    All you peeps hating on Russia cos they got an independent foreign policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    All you peeps hating on Russia cos they got an independent foreign policy.
    But Heinz didn't you develop a form of tank warfare to pwn Russia and the Netherlands ?

    Anyway I think those Russian subs should be scrapped since the Russian economy is suffering considerably due to the collapse in oil prices.

    I bet you want the Queen to be sent to Ektarinaburg lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    All you peeps hating on Russia cos they got an independent foreign policy.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    All you peeps hating on Russia cos they got an independent foreign policy.
    independent foreign policy does not equal a good foreign policy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Their ''continent shell'' is connected to every other ''continental shell''.

    Above Russia? no. Above disputed resource free rich land? still no. Because nowhere did I say ''shoot'' anything whatsoever.
    Well for once I have to agree with Erik. British people certainly have no claim at all concerning the arctis. Let the mighty Norwegian Fleet do the fighting.

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    Russia as one of the abutting nations to the North Pole is the only one, which already plays the imperialistic and military card I support the Danish and Norwegian claims

    But I doubt that the Scandinavians and Canadians would kick the Russians out if it comes to the utmost, so everyone, who doesn't want the Russians to take the North Pole in the future, should support the claims of the USA (Alaska).
    Last edited by PreussensGloria; March 30, 2009 at 08:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopis View Post
    Well for once I have to agree with Erik. British people certainly have no claim at all concerning the arctis. Let the mighty Norwegian Fleet do the fighting.
    I never said Britain should have claims. I said Canada. But I don't care. It has 1/4 of the worlds oil. Who ever is left standing can have it.

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    Lets think before we jump back to Cold War II, everybody...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyrus View Post
    Lets think before we jump back to Cold War II, everybody...
    Screw that.

    Lets do a Hot War. Russia is just a punk that needs to be smacked down. Not to mention a war will fix the world recession....for the NATO countries anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aetius View Post
    Screw that.

    Lets do a Hot War. Russia is just a punk that needs to be smacked down. Not to mention a war will fix the world recession....for the NATO countries anyway.
    yes lets go nuclear that be a great idea (sarcasm)
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