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    Default 4vs2 Epic battle.

    Now, it didn't start out as a 4vs2. It started out as a 4vs4.

    Unfortunately, my Polish ally decided it would be wise to charge all his hussars (which was most of his army) directly into the enemy's stakes, which were put there at the very start of the game. I even warned him WAY before he charged them not to do it. I guess he was illiterate. Either way he lost over 500 men and got less than 100 kills.

    The other ally was US, and he also did extremely poorly and mostly sat there while he got pummeled by about 10-15 artillery batteries. (Mostly mortars)

    My last ally was French and he and I are friends are he's an excellent player.

    The enemy were a mix of British, US and Dutch. They were very well entrenched and decided to spam mortars. Both my friend and I, realizing that our allies got massacred and our enemies were barely scratched, thought the battle was over and we had no chance in hell.

    I went US and my army consisted of: One General, 4 cavalry, 2 horsedrawn artillery, 5 line infantry and 3 long rifles. It was my first time playing as the US, I typically go French and get much more infantry.

    Our enemies seemed to have endless amounts of infantry. Really ridiculous. So anyways, I went to the farthest right I could and started to flank them. They moved troops into the forest to meet me, and I had a cavalry group keep their infantry busy while I marched onwards. I skirmished with some long rifles to draw their infantry out of the forests, but my enemy was keen on keeping the battle inside the forest, where they had the advantage.

    I managed to charge unprepared infantry with my cavalry from the flank and rear, over and over. He put his men in square formation, I would withdraw and hit another unit, then ping pong back and forth between unprepared units as my troops moved forward.

    His army looked huge to me, and it was mostly in the woods. I had no idea what his real numbers were until he did a bayonet charge on my frontline. One of my line infantry was fending off 5 lines of British and American mixed line. I had no chance. I desperately setup my horse artillery, loaded up canister and fired. Fired. Fired. They broke. They were too clustered and I got one of those very satisfying shots off. I held fire, cavalry charged them and they routed. Then I moved to a flanking position, but they just had so much infantry. It was impossible. My infantry eventually routed and I was left with some cavalry, general and my 2 horse artillery. At this point I thought that I gave a good fight and tried my best, accepting defeat, until I saw my ally, TheWeapon, with his French force (highly diminished and out of ammo) marching on the enemy's flank. He had taken out the entire left flank of the enemy. My enemies rallied to attack him while I setup my horse artillery on a clearing nearby. Fired cannonballs at his infantry to beckon them closer. My ally's French troops routed and they turned up the hill to charge my cannons. I held fire and switched to canister... hold...hold... FIRE!!!! And my cannons blasted their charging infantry to smithereens.

    VICTORY!!!! And the kill:death ratio was staggering. It was anywhere between 4:1 to 3:1 for myself and TheWeapon.

    Take a look at the replay, it was a pretty intense match.

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    Default Re: 4vs2 Epic battle.

    haha great!

    BTW it isn't a good idea playing ETW with someone you don't know in your team...

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    Default Re: 4vs2 Epic battle.

    Whats this? Another replay showing that mortar spam is garbage and a waste of money!?

    Say it isn't so!

    Nice replay, +rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remo View Post
    Whats this? Another replay showing that mortar spam is garbage and a waste of money!?

    Say it isn't so!

    Nice replay, +rep
    Mortars suck ass in early. Not half as effective.

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    Default Re: 4vs2 Epic battle.

    How do I view empire replays? And where do I put it?

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    Default Re: 4vs2 Epic battle.

    Go to Documents and Settings, Your username on Windows, Application Data, The Creative Assembly, Empire Total War, Replays folder. Unrar and paste it there and you can open them ingame.

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    Nice replay the french player did well, he could have done awesome if he knew how to put bayonet on !!

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    OMG. This must have been the most frustrating match ever:

    1) The polish player. Lol. Charges all his cavalry, loses them in the first minute. Then throws all his infantry away. Better if AI was running him.
    2) The other US Player. 100 kills, 100 losses. He didn't do a DAMN thing the whole match. Just sat there until the very end, when it didnt matter.

    Man those French fought hard before getting wiped out. Rolled the one Brit AND the UP player. Best was when the UP player thought militia could outfight some pissed of Frenchie line. Nope. The French finally fell when they attacked the US and other Brit defenses.

    Are first I thought you were in trouble. You got hammered as you advanced on that flank. But the beauty of the enemies:

    "He's overruning our flank with line! Quick send your four pikemen!"

    LOL. Grapeshot #1 sweeps them all away.

    "I lost all my units! Now, I'll send over some more!"

    Nice, concentrate your army...not!

    Then the final grapeshot to break the rest of their line at the end was sweet.

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    Default Re: 4vs2 Epic battle.

    Yes, I also love fighting to the last man, though Winning is even funnier!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norpheus View Post
    Yes, I also love fighting to the last man, though Winning is even funnier!
    To the last man every time,reeaal satisfaction!.Good match,so that is morta spam?,i'm going to watch it again.
    Last edited by masliko; March 26, 2009 at 02:24 AM.

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    The polish player did nice with his last line inf, but... Lol "A pikeman, quick, let's charge with my general !"
    I have to watch this replay a second time, this time on you, I was watching the french. Yes, he played really well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorkenlol View Post
    How do I view empire replays? And where do I put it?
    C:\Documents and Settings\YOURNAMEHERE\Application Data\The Creative Assembly\Empire\replays

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    Default Re: 4vs2 Epic battle.

    Quote Originally Posted by L'Ost View Post
    The polish player did nice with his last line inf, but... Lol "A pikeman, quick, let's charge with my general !"
    I have to watch this replay a second time, this time on you, I was watching the french. Yes, he played really well.

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    C:\Documents and Settings\YOURNAMEHERE\Application Data\The Creative Assembly\Empire\replays
    What about for steam. I cant find it anywhere.

    Edit: nvm. its there.
    Last edited by Living Receiver; March 25, 2009 at 03:56 AM.

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    It must have been a sweet-tasting victory indeed. It was truyl a 2v4 victory. The other US player just sat back in the woods and came out to get easy pickings. A number of things your opponents were doing were pretty lulz-worthy.

    -I noticed on a number of occasions one of the Brit players thought it was a good idea to charge Light Infantry into French Guard units.

    -UP player also charged militia into French Guard and Line inf.

    -The UP player killed tons of his own men by firing his mortars directly on top of his militia units when they were in combat about an inch away from Polish infantry. Completely ignored all the French inf that were sitting behind the Polish infantry and firing.

    -Using pikemen to frontal assault Line Infantry? Nice......

    -The Polish ally was pretty hilarious. I still can't figure out why in the right mind you would charge 6 or so units of the most expensive cavalry in the game straight into a wall of stakes. He had them in diamond formation for christsake, and he could have easily manuevered them around the flanks of the stakes. They would have probally still got slaughtered but at least they would have taken a few mortars with them. Tactical genius at it's best. Although I will give the Polish player credit for using some of his Line infantry as a meat shield for the French player's units.
    Last edited by therifleman; March 23, 2009 at 09:06 PM.

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    Default Re: 4vs2 Epic battle.

    I actually just had a battle like that, kind of.
    It was 2v2, my two enemy (France and Marathas) decided to station all their troops on the hill, with their huge 64 pound gun firing at us, my ally (Ottoman) got scared and quit, at that moment I (Scotland) thought I was going to lose, so I decided to attack them ( might as well go down heroically). The computer ally just sat there, doing nothing for some reason while I was attacking. I lost all my men except my general, but manage to killed 2000 of their men. My computer ally then attacked, and we won.
    The reason I think I won because my enemy had like four 64 pound guns, which is expensive as well as pretty useless at close combat, he accidentally killed his general with it as well as a few dozens of his ally men.
    By the time the computer attacked my enemy had around 500 men left compare to 1400 men.

    It was an unbelievable victory for me.

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    Default Re: 4vs2 Epic battle.

    Nice battle. Very nice indeed. Haven't had a battle like this on ETW yet. Hope to, but never happens in a pub for me at least. Has to be with friends like I did on MT2W

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    Default Re: 4vs2 Epic battle.

    It was one of those battles that got the heart pumping. Once I realized we had a chance of winning.

    I just don't quit matches. I'll fight to the bitter, bitter end.

    I think I did fairly well considering the circumstances, but my French ally was just extraordinary. So if you ever see TheWeapon online, watch out!

    I'm glad everyone enjoyed the replay. I thought it was a ridiculous battle that was completely noteworthy.

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    Agreed. Thats a good battle. Thank god there are some people who stay to the end. I never quit. Very note worthy battle

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    I was playing France in there. Was definitly a massive battle. My French units held up very well because I had an unit of elite guard anchoring each army group and keeping their moral up. By then end several of my units were out of ammo or down to a hand full of men.

    We were playing early so I held out on using the readed plug bayonett till it the very end. Units can hold out longer in melee than in a stand up fight with a superior force.

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    It's where L'Ost said it is if you are using XP and every empire installation uses steam. If you have vista then it would be under c:\users\yourname\appdata\roaming\The Creative Assembly\Empire\replays
    You might have to have 'show hidden files and folders' enabled to see appdata iirc.

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    Just had a 1v1 with a similar ending. Playing against a guy with 3-4 mortars my French took the fight down to the last few units. They overran his batteries and defeated the majority of his infantry, despite the enemy's upgraded status - but my cavalry lost their duel with his, and the re-entrance of his dragoons to the fight cost me all but one 1/3rd strength unit of elite line, and 2 horse artillery that had been bombarding his flank for the majority of the fight.

    Long story short, canister from close range pulled a victory outta the jaws of defeat. T'was awesome.

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