Buying India&America

[S<>P<>Q<>R]

Has anyone tried to colonise india and america, by buying teritory one by one.
I usually try this instead of declaring war on nations and alliances.
Fully developing home regions, keeping a small army and navy, not declaring war, is usefull in stocking up the treasury to purchase land. This way you can develop in peace without diplomatic penalties, by the end of the game I control in this mode both continents. Buying every single teritory and in the end declaring war on the last region that faction posses. Sometimes someone will declare war on you, still this will be rare. It succeded with great britain, france and sweden.

Anyone tried the same, comments...

[The_Dude]

thats why its called Total WAR, eh ?

[Aradiel]

thats why its called Total WAR, eh ?

Yea dude your right its "called" total war

Anyways colonys where actually traded up and down as often as they where taken by force, but i guess such extremes should not work. Its the same thing with rome-medieval bribe-rebell tactics.

[Aeneas Veneratio]

thats why its called Total WAR, eh ?

Actually, the name has been changed to Total Bargain

[zligor]

People are getting bored with this game.
To answer question, my only non-violent expansion is trading some european region, usually captured only for this purpose, for Ceylon. It is easier to peacefully gain foothold in India than to force your way in.

[bobkat]

People are getting bored with this game.
To answer question, my only non-violent expansion is trading some european region, usually captured only for this purpose, for Ceylon. It is easier to peacefully gain foothold in India than to force your way in.

Usually after 30 turns a region on the west coast rebels and you can capture it easily, I sent a full stack army to take it and only found three units in the city, and its a full city, not just a territory.

[nosey aka lord welington]

you can also take over france and trade with spain for cube new spain new andalusia and flanders

[Bloodzen]

Its possible to buy out 2 entire continants?
Iv never even managed to convince the ai to hand me over their smallest and most useless region even after offering them almost 40k and all of my tech.....

[Ulysseslotro]

First 10 years you can broker pretty good deals, 10-20 not so good deals. After that you can forget it.

As Britian I traded Bahamas and Rupert's Land for Dutch Guyana + 750. LoL how do you like them apples? They paid me for those and gave me super rich mining region on the first turn lol.

Rupert's Land is impractical to hold onto anyways, its just a matter of time before the Huron take it. Dutch Guyana is nice for its rich mines, and its access to the transitional map.

[Godless Pickle]

But by buying up everyone wont get you military presige or good generals. And the fun of the game lies in the battles.....

[Theodwulf]

In my Ottaman's game, I bought french guiana and Winward isles from france, I paid 100k for each just because I had over a million and had no way to spend it all.

Britian wouldn't sell me anything though, which is funny, as they were "destitute" and France was "spectacular" in wealth.

Doesn't make much sense, but what of the AI does?

[Shadow8]

In my Ottaman's game, I bought french guiana and Winward isles from france, I paid 100k for each just because I had over a million and had no way to spend it all.

Britian wouldn't sell me anything though, which is funny, as they were "destitute" and France was "spectacular" in wealth.

Doesn't make much sense, but what of the AI does?

the reason they were destitute is because they wouldn't sell anything

[Rogue]

In my Maratha game I couldn't buy Upper France from France. After I had just taken it from the Iroquois, destroyed everything, and sold it to them for Quebec. For fun I tried giving them practically everything I had... 1.8 million coins, 8 techs, and Algonquin and Iroquois territory. They refused. I then added Huron land, Rupert's land, Newfoundland, and Inuit territory. They refused. They would trade it for Quebec and about 100k though.

I did manage to grab the Bahamas for about 300k off of GB, but they refused to sell me Jamaica.

[foolfromhell]

In my Maratha game I couldn't buy Upper France from France. After I had just taken it from the Iroquois, destroyed everything, and sold it to them for Quebec. For fun I tried giving them practically everything I had... 1.8 million coins, 8 techs, and Algonquin and Iroquois territory. They refused. I then added Huron land, Rupert's land, Newfoundland, and Inuit territory. They refused. They would trade it for Quebec and about 100k though.

I did manage to grab the Bahamas for about 300k off of GB, but they refused to sell me Jamaica.

how the hell did you get 1.8 million coins?

As Marathas, I control GB, UP, Gibraltar/Morrocco, Persia, and all of the Indian subcontinent. I have no enemies and trade with all major powers. I only get 10k income/turn and I'm 1738. Even at this rate, i'll never reach 1.8million by 1800...

[tiagopereira]

I reached 2.6 million, then bought some regions. Anyway, i've even reached 360K per turn, now its stabilized at 250K. Trade is definitely a money maker !

[sffix]

I reached 2.6 million, then bought some regions. Anyway, i've even reached 360K per turn, now its stabilized at 250K. Trade is definitely a money maker !

Your game is bugged,you shouldnt earn that much money by trading

[WeardLan]

FFH: How many trade posts are you occupying?

I paid Spain a couple of million over a few turns for Portugal, Gibralter, Sardinia, and Curacao. (all done as counter offers to their spammed requests for me to hand France over to them), this enabled me to smash them apart from 3 directions in Europe after cutting a swathe through their south American colonies and without worrying about island nations rebelling/resurging.

[foolfromhell]

FFH: How many trade posts are you occupying?

I paid Spain a couple of million over a few turns for Portugal, Gibralter, Sardinia, and Curacao. (all done as counter offers to their spammed requests for me to hand France over to them), this enabled me to smash them apart from 3 directions in Europe after cutting a swathe through their south American colonies and without worrying about island nations rebelling/resurging.

Around 6 in India, 2 in England. And I also own 80% of all the Trade Theatre's ports. But each only has 1-3 Dhows in them.

[Musthavename]

People are getting bored with this game.
To answer question, my only non-violent expansion is trading some european region, usually captured only for this purpose, for Ceylon. It is easier to peacefully gain foothold in India than to force your way in.

Strangely I find the easiest way to get a foothold is just kill the Dutch. Then Ceylon turns Rebel and you get Amsterdam to boot. That, and Dutch Guyana turns rebel aswell which is a pretty wealthy province.

Personally, i've found the AI doesn't really accept provinces for anything else other than other provinces. For example, the Venitians in my most recent campaigns were blockading my damn ports after I took Venice and refused a ceasefire. So I sailed to Greece and killed them off. Now, I don't really want a border with the Ottomans, so I decided to try and sell them the province for cash. 5000? Nope. 3000? Nope. 2000? Nope. Eventually they get bored and accept to pay me 1000 for it. Considering it makes 1k a turn I got pretty ripped off, but the AI seemed to refuse to consider anything else. Albeit, that was selling, not buying.

Though a funny thing in that campaign was what France were doing. I controlled Savoy, and they kept exchanging me provinces for it. First, the Windward Islands, with about 4 technologies and 500 gold. I accept. Next turn, I immediatly conquer back Savoy, which has no standing army. France accept a ceasfire, and what's more, they didn't call Spain into the war. France gives me a similar offer with another Caribbean Island (the one the Dutch hold, which they swapped for Guyana), along with 2 techs and some small amount of gold. I accept, and reconquer, and force a ceasefire. Then, they give me Newfoundland, and 2 more techs and some more gold for it. I conquer it back again, and they immediatly accept a ceasefire, and no Spanish inolvement again! So effectivly, i've scammed France for 8 technologies and 3 colonies and about 1.2k gold or so. Lovely [Now however, with no more islands to trade, they offer me a ... trade agreement for Savoy... hell no]. And all it's cost me is the French are stuck in Hostile, which doesn't bother me at all

[Vor]

Strangely I find the easiest way to get a foothold is just kill the Dutch. Then Ceylon turns Rebel and you get Amsterdam to boot. That, and Dutch Guyana turns rebel aswell which is a pretty wealthy province.

Personally, i've found the AI doesn't really accept provinces for anything else other than other provinces. For example, the Venitians in my most recent campaigns were blockading my damn ports after I took Venice and refused a ceasefire. So I sailed to Greece and killed them off. Now, I don't really want a border with the Ottomans, so I decided to try and sell them the province for cash. 5000? Nope. 3000? Nope. 2000? Nope. Eventually they get bored and accept to pay me 1000 for it. Considering it makes 1k a turn I got pretty ripped off, but the AI seemed to refuse to consider anything else. Albeit, that was selling, not buying.

Though a funny thing in that campaign was what France were doing. I controlled Savoy, and they kept exchanging me provinces for it. First, the Windward Islands, with about 4 technologies and 500 gold. I accept. Next turn, I immediatly conquer back Savoy, which has no standing army. France accept a ceasfire, and what's more, they didn't call Spain into the war. France gives me a similar offer with another Caribbean Island (the one the Dutch hold, which they swapped for Guyana), along with 2 techs and some small amount of gold. I accept, and reconquer, and force a ceasefire. Then, they give me Newfoundland, and 2 more techs and some more gold for it. I conquer it back again, and they immediatly accept a ceasefire, and no Spanish inolvement again! So effectivly, i've scammed France for 8 technologies and 3 colonies and about 1.2k gold or so. Lovely [Now however, with no more islands to trade, they offer me a ... trade agreement for Savoy... hell no]. And all it's cost me is the French are stuck in Hostile, which doesn't bother me at all

Technically I'd say that is abusing a flaw in the AI