Cavalry campaign map movement?

[wubbs77]

It does not appear that cavalry armies have any bonus to campaign map movement points. What gives? I believe an army consisting only of horse artillery, dragoons, and cavalry should receive a massive boost to campaign map movement points.

An army of this composition would be ideal for raiding enemy settlements/resources, and particularly suited for operations in the massive lands of Russia.

The trade-off is clear: reduced firepower and unit size in return for increased travel speed and response time in an emergency.

Past total war games took cavalry movement speed into account, what happened?

Anyone know how I can mod this? I'm clueless.

[Theseus1234]

cavalry by themselves move faster, and infantry move slower
however, the army marches to the slowest unit (which has always been the feature of TW games), which is in most cases infantry or artillery
having horses around doesn't magically make an army faster

[pdanders]

An Army comprised of only horses (cavalry and dragoons) moves quite a bit faster on the campaign map... one reason dragoons are actually useful... if you want a highly mobile patrol force that still has some firepower

[wubbs77]

An Army comprised of only horses (cavalry and dragoons) moves quite a bit faster on the campaign map... one reason dragoons are actually useful... if you want a highly mobile patrol force that still has some firepower

I must insist this is not the case.

I've just tested again, try it.

I put one unit of line infantry directly next to one unit of dragoons on the campaign map just either side of a road. At the very beginning of a new turn, they have the same movement zone.

[snuggans]

I must insist this is not the case.

I've just tested again, try it.

I put one unit of line infantry directly next to one unit of dragoons on the campaign map just either side of a road. At the very beginning of a new turn, they have the same movement zone.

pretty sure you're doing something wrong. everyone in this thread including myself can attest to cavalry having more movement points, this goes as far back as RTW, maybe even further.

[Theseus1234]

it's different for me, have you tried regular cavalry instead of dragoons? after all, dragoons were just mounted infantry

[Eastern Weasel]

Cav do move faster on campaign map, however movement differences have been significantly toned down in comparison to previous titles, so it is not so significant anymore.

[Onizuka0513]

I've tested it too, just to make sure. Cavalry get more move points. Artillery get less than infantry.

[wubbs77]

I don't get it.

Here are screens. Cavalry does seem to be able to move a bit further to the left of the screen, but not much. Every other direction seems the same.

Unit of Militia, Full movement points:




Unit of Cavalry, Full movement points:



I guess there is a tiny discrepancy, but...really? this is the only difference? Is this what everyone else is seeing? I would expect cavalry to be able to move much further.

[tokaiser]

OP is right, thats almost nothing...

[wubbs77]

OP is right, thats almost nothing...

Thank you.

But I'm genuinely curious, to all those above who swore up and down that they've tested and cavalry can move further, are you really seeing something different? Or is this it?

[snuggans]

you're wrong in that there is no difference in movement 'points' but i do agree that cavalry's should be increased from what it is now.

[Kazang]

Cav can move further than infantry, about 20% further per turn is what i have observed. It also seems that the terrain type makes a difference, some seems to favour cav more and they get to go further, in your screenshot for example the cav goes all the way to Breslau, but the inf unit only gets as far as poland's border.
But when compared to the cross country route towards Lwow the difference in movement range is much less pronounced.

I do argee that the difference should be greater but the difference is there none the less.