India, Pakistan report firing on Kashmir frontier

[Nikos]

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/...r-Shooting.php

SRINAGAR, India: Indian troops were fired upon across the heavily fortified frontier in the Himalayan region of Kashmir, injuring a soldier, army officials said Saturday, even as Pakistan blamed Indian army soldiers for the shooting.
Brig. Gopala Krishnan Murali, a senior Indian army officer in India's Jammu-Kashmir state, would not say whether suspected Islamic rebels or Pakistani soldiers initiated Friday's firing, but said that a formal complaint had been lodged with Pakistan.
Pakistan's army, meanwhile, said it was Indian troops who "resorted to unprovoked firing." An army statement said that a protest had been filed "for cease-fire violation."

Not good, could we soon see another Kashmir war?

[Heinz Guderian]

Armoured thrust through Punjab. Job done.

Nothing can beat an armoured thrust through Punjab. I dare anyone to debate me about armoured thrusts through Punjab. You wont, cos you know i will win.

[mongrel]

Armoured thrust through Punjab. Job done.

Nothing can beat an armoured thrust through Punjab. I dare anyone to debate me about armoured thrusts through Punjab. You wont, cos you know i will win.

Looks as if I will have to post another strategic map for you HG.

Enjoy

[Nikos]

Armoured thrust through Punjab. Job done.

Nothing can beat an armoured thrust through Punjab. I dare anyone to debate me about armoured thrusts through Punjab. You wont, cos you know i will win.

Sigh, you're right.

[Ishoss]

Armoured thrust through Punjab. Job done.

Nothing can beat an armoured thrust through Punjab. I dare anyone to debate me about armoured thrusts through Punjab. You wont, cos you know i will win.

What's the armor ratio between the armies, dear Guderian?

[Heinz Guderian]

What's the armor ratio between the armies, dear Guderian?

About 2:1 in India's favour. Both sides rely heavily on Soviet armour. So both know the other's weakness. It would be a good fight. But i remember the French had more tanks than us in '39 and theirs were heavier. It didnt stop us pissing in the Gulf of Calais a few weeks later. It would come down to the skill of the Batallion commanders.

Can we please stay on topic. This thread is about armoured manouvres. Thanks.

[Nikos]

About 2:1 in India's favour. Both sides rely heavily on Soviet armour. So both know the other's weakness. It would be a good fight. But i remember the French had more tanks than us in '39 and theirs were heavier. It didnt stop us pissing in the Gulf of Calais a few weeks later. It would come down to the skill of the Batallion commanders.

Can we please stay on topic. This thread is about armoured manouvres. Thanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Asal_Uttar
using history as a judge, I think India has the advantage in armored warfare. Pakistan always get's their ass kicked when they try to take on Indian armor.

[Vercingetorix_Defeated]

The most amusing thing is watching the Pakistanis and Indians buy various tanks when trying to outstrip each other.

First India will buy T-80s from Russia. Then Pakistan will get T-84s. Then India gets T-85s in response, which drives Pakistan to get T-90s, and so on.

The Russians have to be laughing all the way to the bank at the little arms race, especially when all of these tanks are really just the same thing slightly modified to sucker nations into buying them.

[Babur]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Asal_Uttar
using history as a judge, I think India has the advantage in armored warfare. Pakistan always get's their ass kicked when they try to take on Indian armor.

I heard that in the 1971 war we used T-55 tanks and the Pakistanis used the Chinese copy, the Type 59 and supposedly this was confusing for both sides' Tank Corps .

At least we still beat them .

[Zephyrus]

About 2:1 in India's favour. Both sides rely heavily on Soviet armour. So both know the other's weakness. It would be a good fight. But i remember the French had more tanks than us in '39 and theirs were heavier. It didnt stop us pissing in the Gulf of Calais a few weeks later. It would come down to the skill of the Batallion commanders.

Can we please stay on topic. This thread is about armoured manouvres. Thanks.

Just go to war already. Sheesh.

Ya, they better fight before I catch the episode of House making out with Cuddy this season! I'm getting too tired of all the little -slapping thats taking place over there.

[Babur]

We will just own the Pakistani army if they try anything similar to 1999 .

[ShADoW]

Again, here we go on the merry-go-around...sigh

Edit:W/E said above lol, but this time Pakistan wont be able to give much of a fight as seeing there current situation.

[Farnan]

Maybe it was Kashmiri rebels trying to provoke a war hoping it could force India to do what they want.

[Nikos]

Maybe it was Kashmiri rebels trying to provoke a war hoping it could force India to do what they want.

Perhaps, I wonder who really did shoot first though. Was it the Indians or Pakistanis?

[Farnan]

Perhaps, I wonder who really did shoot first though. Was it the Indians or Pakistanis?

As I said could have been Kashmiri rebels firing both ways.

Wouldn't be the first time a rebel group tried to provoke a war between two nations.

[Nikos]

As I said could have been Kashmiri rebels firing both ways.

Wouldn't be the first time a rebel group tried to provoke a war between two nations.

But the article says an Indian Soldier was injured.

Indian troops were fired upon across the heavily fortified frontier in the Himalayan region of Kashmir, injuring a soldier, army officials said Saturday, even as Pakistan blamed Indian army soldiers for the shooting.

[Farnan]

But the article says an Indian Soldier was injured.

Rebels can hit.

[Babur]

Perhaps, I wonder who really did shoot first though. Was it the Indians or Pakistanis?

Well just a word of note but the last time that India and Pakistan went to war over Kashmir, it was followed by an army coup d'etat which overthrew the civilian government of Pakistan.

[Babur]

Pakistan wants to liberate Kashmir from Indian "occupation" even though the Pakistani govt really have mismanaged their country over the past 60 years.

[Serious Spamurai]

Paaaakstaaan Zindabaaad.

Why do make "a" sound really long?