"It didnt Break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the constitution"
"Generally the constitution is a charter of negative liberties"
"It dosent say, what the federal government, must do on your behalf"
Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
"It didnt Break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the constitution"
"Generally the constitution is a charter of negative liberties"
"It dosent say, what the federal government, must do on your behalf"
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Re: Obama: The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys
The Constitution is trampled and disobeyed every day in thathole known as D.C. Goddamn socialist
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Re: Obama: The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys
the constitution has been trampled since Jackson.Originally Posted by tkubic46
The Constitution is trampled and disobeyed every day in that
house of Rububula, under the patronage of Nihil, patron of Hotspur, David Deas, Freddie, Askthepizzaguy and Ketchfoop
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Re: Obama: The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys
Another one bites the dust...
Seen this before! Just wish everyone saw it
Vicarius Provinciae
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
Doesnt sound like Obama.
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the Bad and the Ugly
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
Dammit to hell... 0bama has no respect for the Constitution. Now it's all of a sudden become a lot more obvious.
IMPEACH 0BAMA
Comes Rei Militaris
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
Obama has no respect period. I agree.
IMPEACH him before he drives our country into the ground!
Senator
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
If we impeach Obama we end up with Biden. Not that great of a choice really.
Comes Rei Militaris
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
Neither was Obama.I believe our country would do better under Biden who actually has experience.
Praepositus
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
We can impeach him too
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
That would not be so easy to do, because you need grounds for impeachment, and there aren't any.We can impeach him too
Primicerius
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
Good gosh who ever started the Hitler nonsense sure has inspired Jankren, now its spread to Martin N. Sure did scare away Winters, sigh it was kinda interesting reading his debates with you people lol
Vicarius
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
Apologies, it was me who said it on first page and jankren just kinda went with the flowGood gosh who ever started the Hitler nonsense sure has inspired Jankren, now its spread to Martin N. Sure did scare away Winters, sigh it was kinda interesting reading his debates with you people lol
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Tiro
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
We don't need to impeach him. We just need to wait until 2010 when the new Republicans ride into Congress on a wave of hate for Obama's failures and then block any more of his demented attempts to drive our country into economic ruin.
Protector Domesticus
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
Guys, we are under a duopoly oligarchic system. Republicans and Democrats HAVE BOTH FAILED US!
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Senator
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
I just hope nothing would happen to him if he did end up in charge as we'd end up with Pelosi, and THAT really would be tragic.
The One Who Knocks
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
Lol in many ways he is right. The constituion is a foolish thing because it is trampled on and manipulated EVERY day EVERY hour.
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Tiro
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
I genuinely can't tell if people are joking or being serious in this thread . . .
How is Obama being disrespectful here?
Note that he describes the constiution as 'essential constraint'.
What he seems to be criticising is that the Constitution says what the Federal Government shouldn't do, but never gives any hint for what the Federal Government should do.
And what he's complaining about in relation to wealth redistribution is that a large amount of the American economy prior to the Civil Rights movement was made by black people for white people, but no money ever got given back.
This is a complaint about the Civil Rights movement's specific areas of focus, on the specific people in government at the time and to how the Constitution has been interpreted. It is not a complaint about the Constitution itself.
Btw, the phrase "negative liberties" is referring to the fact that the Constitution is incredibly negative in tone. It, as i said before, tells people in government what not to do, but gives them no instruction on what to actually do. This leaves alot down to individual interpretaion, and it's this interpretation that he criticise, not the constitution.
Also, Don't read the yellow text. At all.
Just listen to what he says in its context without paraphrasings. It makes alot more sense, is alot less radical, and generally is more sophisticated.
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Praefectus
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
Which clearly shows he doesn't actually have any
The Constitution limits government by telling it EXACTLY what it can do.
The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. - James Madison
Civitate
Re: Obama: "The Constitution is a charter of negative libertys"
You're right, the former professor of constitutional law and graduate of Harvard law school has noWhich clearly shows he doesn't actually have any
The Constitution limits government by telling it EXACTLY what it can do.
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