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    Anyone else longing for the Roman and Greek times with their close combat battles? I find these rows of soldiers shooting each other from a distance so cowardly...

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    Reloading a musket 20 yards away from a wall of enemy soldiers while not knowing when you where gonna get your head blown off must have been so easy.

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    Haha. The R:TW hit and run tactics are annoying with infantry vs skirmishers. I still play R:TW, but I want to play E:TW so bad, I bet it's a lot better >.<

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    So cowardly to stand still in a line with your brothers knowing you could bite it at any minute. Yeah.

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    Just check my sig...yeah...ok...just so cowardly to stand in a field of fire. Read up on the times and you'll change your tune fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn Sage View Post
    Just check my sig...yeah...ok...just so cowardly to stand in a field of fire. Read up on the times and you'll change your tune fast.
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    Haha oh god, someones been watching too many Mel Gibson films

    Anyways, my 2 cents:

    Standing in a packed line in an open field with no cover: NOT COWARDLY

    Getting Close to a guy, seeing his face, his eyes, and then having to finish him off: .....Eh.... a bit more brave (and tragic).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TG Diamond View Post
    Haha oh god, someones been watching too many Mel Gibson films

    Anyways, my 2 cents:

    Standing in a packed line in an open field with no cover: NOT COWARDLY

    Getting Close to a guy, seeing his face, his eyes, and then having to finish him off: .....Eh.... a bit more brave (and tragic).

    So you're saying that dismemberment with a cannon ball is unrealistic? Are you mental?


    What I have to say about this is:

    The reason they fought like this is to lower casualties and make it a bit more.. civilized. Which it did. Obviously hand to hand is harder and much more intense, I would rather be far away so I would have a lower chance of being killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewpur View Post
    So you're saying that dismemberment with a cannon ball is unrealistic? Are you mental?


    What I have to say about this is:

    The reason they fought like this is to lower casualties and make it a bit more.. civilized. Which it did. Obviously hand to hand is harder and much more intense, I would rather be far away so I would have a lower chance of being killed.
    Sorry if you misunderstood, I just thought it was pretty funny to see The Patriot in a guy's sig, I haven't seen it in awhile so it was pretty cool that I recognized it

    And there is nothing comical/beautiful about a guy's head getting blown off by a cannonball,

    (I liked The Patriot by the way, its just that like many other Mel Gibson films, it focuses alot on brutal, bloody deaths, that I don't really wish to see.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TG Diamond View Post
    Sorry if you misunderstood, I just thought it was pretty funny to see The Patriot in a guy's sig, I haven't seen it in awhile so it was pretty cool that I recognized it

    And there is nothing comical/beautiful about a guy's head getting blown off by a cannonball,

    (I liked The Patriot by the way, its just that like many other Mel Gibson films, it focuses alot on brutal, bloody deaths, that I don't really wish to see.)
    Is this guy for real, or a woman in disguise - whats not funny about seeing a guy's head be blown off by a cannonball - it's a film....

    If you like Mel Gibson films watch the passion of Christ ( juicy!! )

    I think you need to cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it!

    I for one like close combat as well as shooting people which is why I'm making my way to kashmir so I can get the Gurkhas which their off long knives!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn Sage View Post
    Just check my sig...yeah...ok...just so cowardly to stand in a field of fire. Read up on the times and you'll change your tune fast.
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    Lol, very true.
    I count the 18th century combat as bravery to the point of stupidity.

    Now im not anti-violent films/games/etc but stuff like that is bit harsh for a public forum sig. Kids around and stuff.

    Besides makes it hard to concentrate on reading your post with that looping

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    Basically i find very hillarious the way many use firepower
    my battle always end with a good melee assault

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo the greek View Post
    Basically i find very hillarious the way many use firepower
    my battle always end with a good melee assault
    Here here! Its not a really a battle unless theirs some steel clanging!




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    If I have the Black Watch I tend to do the traditional Scots bit with a volley and then a charge. Mix it up a little ^.^
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandAdmiral de Ruyter View Post
    Anyone else longing for the Roman and Greek times with their close combat battles? I find these rows of soldiers shooting each other from a distance so cowardly...
    Killing and being killed is the same, through out the ages.
    I think you need to wise up kid. War isn't romantic...not now, not ever.
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    The Patriot,even if highly historically inaccurate, is still a VERY good film, one of my favs even if I am not even American or British or anything like that

    To stand in a line, marching towards your death, watching people fall like flies around you, taking bullets and hearing cannonballs whizz above your head...you need courage to do that (Inspired by Angry Joe of the Angry Joe Show in : "5 Reasons why Empire Total War kicks @ss")
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandAdmiral de Ruyter View Post
    Anyone else longing for the Roman and Greek times with their close combat battles? I find these rows of soldiers shooting each other from a distance so cowardly...
    Although I think you have already been sufficiently spanked on your opinion, I myself feel that there has been no other time in history were soldiers demonstrated as much courage as during the gunpowder age. I cringe when imagining what emotional turmoil the soldiers must have gone through at the front lines.

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    I think we'd all agree that no war has ever been pretty. Since technology has advanced and weapons have been modernized the way soldiers kill others may have changed to an extent but everyone still suffers in any war.

    Ask a guy if he'd rather stand in line trading shots with a musket while 25 pound cannon balls fly past his head, or charge into a massive melee battle with swords and sheilds and arrows flying I don't think he'd say "well I'll take this one because it would be easier!"

    IMO either one would...suck

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    He's not talking about the people that did this...obviously he's just talking about watching them, and I'd agree to a point. Watching guys duke it out with their couple animations and killing blows was more fun as a spectator then the same shooting animation over and over.

    You guys really need to lighten up

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    Eh, while yea, swords and shields pretty cool i admit, you actually do get to dictate the battle outcome to an extent, compared to

    ETW timeline

    Your marching in closed pack ranks, hopeing you don't get one shotted by a cannon, and when that time finally comes, to fire your weapon, which you do, your pretty damn vulnerable, for what, a 30-secs or more trying to reload your weapon? All the while the dudes on the opposing side can release there rounds upon you and your buddies, and a few cannonade rounds come knockin on your door step. You know your enemy is there, but its not like they put tracer rounds on there musket balls, which would be coool, but totally unrealisitc.


    Shooting eachother from a somewhat large distance, all the while you have to worry about cannon balls and return musket fire is not cowardly. Sure your not fighting hand to hand combat, but, it takes pure cannon balls to march abreast, hoping you just live through the next day without your head being blopped off, or getting shot by a musket round

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    I took the original poster's comment to be either tongue in cheek or trolling, but either way...

    I think both forms of combat took some serious cajones. But I'd imagine that many a Roman, if faced with a volley from some Red Coats, would crap themselves and run away (this pains me to say, because I'm a Romaphile, but a realistic one). On the other hand, soldiers in the Age of Gunpowder routinely engaged in melee, and some were very well drilled, so they'd probably be alright facing some Romans with swords and such.

    Again, in any event, there would be a lot of fear, terror, etc. And a lot of bravery.

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