Soldiers leaving battalions?

**Danny_K_1** · March 18, 2009, 06:52 AM

Help a newb to SS

Men are leaving my battalions for no apparent reason I don't get it

help?
I don't what's causing the problem so I posted here (sorry if it should be somewhere else.)

**PerXX** · March 18, 2009, 08:10 AM

The only reasons I can think of, for why you might be loosing men, is these:

* Your army has joined a crusade, but have taken too long to reach the target, so the men are deserting. (This would cause entire units to dissapear)

* A diplomat/princess have bribed the army. (this would cause the entire army to dissapear)

* Your general has the plague. (This would cause a smaller number of men in each unit to dissapear)

In all the above cases, you should get an info-scroll about it, when you start the turn.

**Danny_K_1** · March 18, 2009, 08:27 AM

Nope, no info scrolls at all.

**PerXX** · March 18, 2009, 08:34 AM

Could you explain exactly what's happening then?

Is it units in the armies, that's dissapearing or individual men in the units? When is this happening? Is it every army/unit, or just some of them? Are you on a Crusade/Jihad? Perhaps undergoing a rebellion (King would have the trait "Offends the nobility")

**Viscule** · March 18, 2009, 08:36 AM

People being starved out?

**Gorrrrrn** · March 18, 2009, 09:40 AM

RE O/P

yes I had this, army on campaign had reduced numbers for no apparent reason - looked like the sort of reduction you get if you are under siege but they were outside, not inside. (Desertion will take entire units but this was like a 5-10% reduction for all units.) (Does plague affect region or settlement - if former then maybe that's what's causing it.)

**Viscule** · March 18, 2009, 09:44 AM

Army supply trait.

Most likely at 0%.

**PerXX** · March 18, 2009, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Rozanov

RE O/P

yes I had this, army on campaign had reduced numbers for no apparent reason - looked like the sort of reduction you get if you are under siege but they were outside, not inside. (Desertion will take entire units but this was like a 5-10% reduction for all units.) (Does plague affect region or settlement - if former then maybe that's what's causing it.)

Plague doesn't affect regions, but it can effect both settlements, and generals. So, if you move a general into a settlement with plague, and he gets infected, his men will start dying, even after leaving the settlement again. So, each turn untill he get's healed/dies, men will drop dead.

Note, you can infect settlements with plague, if you move an infected spy into the settlement. I'm pretty sure you can also infect generals this way, even if they're not in a settlement. Not 100% certain though.

**Danny_K_1** · March 18, 2009, 10:09 AM

The trait said army supply was at full.
The settlement was coming under seige quite alot. after every few turns (or just one turn) a few units would have one or two men less than it should have.

**PerXX** · March 18, 2009, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Danny_K_1

The trait said army supply was at full.
The settlement was coming under seige quite alot. after every few turns (or just one turn) a few units would have one or two men less than it should have.

Ahh. As long as a settlement is under siege, it will loose a few men every turn, due to starvation and such. This is normal behavior.

**Danny_K_1** · March 18, 2009, 10:32 AM

Is it the same for vanilla? if so I can't believe I didn't notice before lol

**Sargon_of_Akkad** · March 18, 2009, 10:50 AM

I had this exact problem too, but I am not using the army supply system (er, wtf am I paying all this upkeep already, for?).

For the record, it was the English King Henry the Conqueror marching on Alexandria. He left with a full army, and arrived with them all at exactly 2/3rds full, despite having encountered no resistance.

**PerXX** · March 18, 2009, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Danny_K_1

Is it the same for vanilla? if so I can't believe I didn't notice before lol

Uhh.. well, it's been ages since I've played Vanilla, but I'm pretty sure it's always been that way.

Originally Posted by Sargon_of_Akkad

I had this exact problem too, but I am not using the army supply system (er, wtf am I paying all this upkeep already, for?).

For the record, it was the English King Henry the Conqueror marching on Alexandria. He left with a full army, and arrived with them all at exactly 2/3rds full, despite having encountered no resistance.

Was he crusading? If so, some of the units probably deserted, thinking he took too long getting there.