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    Stainless Steel is really great mod but interference with code may also broke something.


    I saw other threads with this so it is not only my problem but other players too.it is so artificial.
    my example:

    Best solution to use princesess is marry with general.Princesses are often very good diplomat.

    I have princess with maybe 6- or 7 hearts and I marry her with 6 stars hungarian general.5 turns later WITHOUT ANY OTHER FEATURE that time he lost his stars......

    It was just waste princesses and waste time because of code .Code not give U good general forget it.Good generals are only in the beginning first 30 turns with first King and first brothers,later all generals are bad.



    really guys I know that eveyrone try to increase game difficulty and made more hard game but this solution is really bad.

    Game must be good fun and features are against us.When I have general and won many battles they have only 1 maybe two stars.He is very often afflicted pneuomnia scurvy or antyhing like that ,have a fruitcake adultress and many more bad features like lazy or mad.

    it is some joke because when my genereal is out of town he sick very often,when he is in the town he get badly features like lazy because he is still in the city or non contructive because not build buildings since 3-4 turn ,even when build eveything in this city when I load him in the ship in 90% cases second turns = excuse me Your general is afflicted with scurvy.

    Best solution maybe is leave that stars but made stars complete useless.

    It is possible to made that 3 enemy stars have the same value as 6 player stars?
    Last edited by Ponti; March 17, 2009 at 09:17 AM.

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    And one more thing ,one of good change for this mod are scholar buildings like school ,libraries and universities.But this buildings are completely useless.

    It is very hard to get universtiy when U are in Total War and have a big empire.And now when new generals or administratives coming to the age they have only one or two turns to reach university on time in other case they are just dump and get bad features.But it is very often impossible to have all fathers in one city with university when boy coming up the age.

    It is possible to change that generals have time to 20 years old for teaching and this time is use to made final feature?

    I have more than Lycauem building (I can't remember name of building) in Constaninople (metropolis city) and all my administrative generals even when they born in this city and learn from 14 old year never get more than basic military or basic orthodox education...

    So it is a waste money for that kind of buildings.Education building path cost me a lot of florins so I was very dissapointed with effects.
    Last edited by Ponti; March 17, 2009 at 09:09 AM.

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    Default Re: General Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by Ponti View Post
    Stainless Steel is really great mod but interference with code may also broke something.


    I saw other threads with this so it is not only my problem but other players too.it is so artificial.
    my example:

    Best solution to use princesess is marry with general.Princesses are often very good diplomat.

    I have princess with maybe 6- or 7 hearts and I marry her with 6 stars hungarian general.5 turns later WITHOUT ANY OTHER FEATURE that time he lost his stars......

    It was just waste princesses and waste time because of code .Code not give U good general forget it.Good generals are only in the beginning first 30 turns with first King and first brothers,later all generals are bad.



    really guys I know that eveyrone try to increase game difficulty and made more hard game but this solution is really bad.

    Game must be good fun and features are against us.When I have general and won many battles they have only 1 maybe two stars.He is very often afflicted pneuomnia scurvy or antyhing like that ,have a fruitcake adultress and many more bad features like lazy or mad.

    it is some joke because when my genereal is out of town he sick very often,when he is in the town he get badly features like lazy because he is still in the city or non contructive because not build buildings since 3-4 turn ,even when build eveything in this city when I load him in the ship in 90% cases second turns = excuse me Your general is afflicted with scurvy.

    Best solution maybe is leave that stars but made stars complete useless.

    It is possible to made that 3 enemy stars have the same value as 6 player stars?
    1.Don't put a general with less than four chivalry in a city with a brothel.
    Brothels are responsible for the adulteresses and fruitcakes your generals keep getting. They could also be responsible for the lazy trait as well.
    2. Don't campaign in the winter, doing so will give you pneumonia, just as it was in reality.
    3. Don't go into battle with an overwhelming force against your enemies army. Only when the balance of power is about equal (1:1) will your general be properly tested, and thus given more command stars.
    4. Are you rich in money? The more money you have in the treasury the more corrupt and useless your generals will be get, because of the increased decadence of your peoples lifestyles.
    5. Give us more information about what other sub mods, if any you are using. Are you using the 6.2 patch BTW? Perhaps the conflicts are what are messing up your characters traits, like you described with your Hungarian general. I have never had that problem.

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    Many thanks Emperor for answer.I'm appreciate it that U are explains some mechanism.


    ad.1 Yes I build brothels in cities so I must check it when I put in that cities generals

    ad.2 It is good advice but not agreed in 100% with that.19 years old general with healthy features also get pneumonia .it is just so often.And BTW I was playing Bizantium so southern region like Greece are really warm.

    ad.3 yes it is true of course I'm talking about heroic or clear victory.Of course I use generals with any battle because as I saw when I try automatic battles and so often my general recieve wounded features less movement and general hits.Play in every battle it is chance to get some good features like "veteran warrior"

    ad.4 Yes I playing Bizantium so people are rich of course I recieve many money and I have nothing to do with that build very fast all buildings but agreed with interpretation.Sometimes I cannot spend any money because I have everything.

    ad.5 Yes iI,m playing with modmod 6.2 and latest patch from 8 mar.


    What about education ?

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    Default Re: General Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by Ponti View Post
    Best solution maybe is leave that stars but made stars complete useless.

    It is possible to made that 3 enemy stars have the same value as 6 player stars?
    No. Effects of character stats are hardcoded.

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