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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    I know the feelings man. When one works get harsh critiques by the uninformed or accused, that does make it personal. Well people are critiques, you can ignore them or take them as grain of salt.

    Anyway,
    I do hope someone found a way to make them faction specifics. Until then, I'm switching the drum&fife every time I play different factions.
    It's not that hard if you used to swapping files manually like me.

    Ps.
    Any chance you are working on Maratha drum & fife? Well something similar that used in their songs...

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    Only music I hear is from your Drum and Fife mod.

    Didn't even know the Smoke mod had any in it?
    It was part of the old Smoke mod version. Thankfully, the files was separated later on (as the sound effects along drum & fife seems to be neglected as smoke mod progress).
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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    That happen a lot Skywalker. Even with the other drum&fife mods. It seems they played seperately, i'd say it's normal. In vanilla you hardly notice it since they only play looping drum.
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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    I have the sound mod of Mech_Donald and your 2 fifes drums (French and Prussian). But I only hear the french fife. No mech_donald ones and Prussian march...
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brips View Post
    I have the sound mod of Mech_Donald and your 2 fifes drums (French and Prussian). But I only hear the french fife. No mech_donald ones and Prussian march...
    Why?
    You can have only one sound file at the time or they conflict and don't work...

    btw Caligula you have a wonderful work here and I'm using it together with smoke and fire light... u guys bring life to TW series
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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    @Bocah Bali - Trust me I will leave NO faction without some kind of Field music. Maratha's will have something you can be assured.

    @ Everyone- Thank you for the kind words! It was extraordinarily discouraging. Especially the email. I apologize to everyone for my rant. No worries though, I am going to continue to work on this mod. Though the song releases will be a little further apart. I need to write and mix my own bands music as I have been neglecting that to work on this mod.

    On a good note, "Yankee Doodle" is nearing completion and im in the process of post mixing it as I type this. It will be available later tonight! So stay tuned!
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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    I am prob just over looking it or I am just plain blind

    But all I can find is the video of the US drum and fife. Where is the link for the file? or are you still recovering from you Hospital trip and it will be done later? on any note I do hope you are doing ok and no rush Just get better.

    Well ok then it there now So Thanks, Time to go to war
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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    Well I just tested it and it worked without a hitch. Wonder why its not working for you? Are all your sound volumes up in your options? I'll help you get this working yet!!!
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    So I went to an old music store a few miles from my house. The guy trades in all kinds of old sheet music, and what not. So I'm digging through the bins he has stacked against a back wall. I had gone through four or five of them. I asked the old guy behind the counter if he had some old marching songs in sheet music. He says" Sure should be in the bottom crate in the corner over there." So I remove the 5 crates stacked on top and start digging. Most of it was Sousa but then I found this march called the Battle of Narva, I almost fell over it mentions Sweden! So I asked the guy if he can hold it for me and rushed home to look it up and this is what I have found!

    "On November 30, 1700 (November 20 in the Swedish transitional calendar), Charles XII positioned his 8,140 men opposite the besieging Russian army of about 37,000 troops. The Swedish army was commanded personally by Charles XII, assisted by General Carl Gustav Rehnskiöld. The Russian forces were commanded by Tsar Peter and Charles Eugène de Croy. Claiming important "domestic events" in Russia to attend to, Peter had left Narva in fear just days before and was therefore not present during the actual fighting.
    For much of the day, a blizzard engulfed both armies, making attacks impossible. However, at midday, the winds changed and the snowstorm blew directly into the eyes of the Russians. Charles XII saw his opportunity and advanced on the Russian army under cover of the weather. The Swedes quickly broke through the Russian lines in several places, scattering their opponents, who could offer little resistance. In the chaos, some of the Russian soldiers killed their foreign officers, whom they hated. At one crucial point, a bridge over river Narva collapsed under retreating Russian troops. The bulk of the Russian army was trapped on the Estonian side of the river.
    At dawn, it was clear that the Swedish army had won a stunning victory, but the force was relatively small and they had advanced on Narva in marches with scarce supplies for two days. One Swedish cavalry officer suddenly found himself in front of a fully armed Russian infantry company. He signed to them to lay down their arms, and they obliged. The Swedish troops discovered not only food in the Russian camp, but also liquor. Drunkenness broke out in the Swedish ranks. Nevertheless, the Swedish command managed to retain basic control of the army, however the overall number of Russian prisoners of the war were far to great to handle for the Swedish force. Consequently, common soldiers and NCO's were disarmed and sent back to Russia. Only Russian officers were made prisoners of war. In the end the Russian army was utterly defeated and the Swedes retained Narva.
    The Russian surrender brought to Charles XII's army all of Peter's cannons, muskets and military supplies. This left Russia's remaining armed forces with essentially no equipment. If Sweden, or any other aggressor, had invaded Russia immediately after Narva, Peter would have been almost powerless to stop them."
    So I went back to the store to buy it for a dollar!! Now my question is, would this be ok for a Sweden's field march? If not I only spent a buck, and it will add to my research. Let me know what you guys (and Gals) think!
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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    i think it would be great, looks like it has a good story behind it but maybe a swede can confirm that if he's knowledgeable about the song

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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    to anser your question yes I have all volumes set to full while I tested your file. JUst ran like 10 battles and could never hear your work?
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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    @Groove - Very strange indeed. Your not using any other music mods by any chance? Its strange its not working for you. Do any of my other mod packs work for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowfaith View Post
    So I went to an old music store a few miles from my house. The guy trades in all kinds of old sheet music, and what not. So I'm digging through the bins he has stacked against a back wall. I had gone through four or five of them. I asked the old guy behind the counter if he had some old marching songs in sheet music. He says" Sure should be in the bottom crate in the corner over there." So I remove the 5 crates stacked on top and start digging. Most of it was Sousa but then I found this march called the Battle of Narva, I almost fell over it mentions Sweden! So I asked the guy if he can hold it for me and rushed home to look it up and this is what I have found!

    "On November 30, 1700 (November 20 in the Swedish transitional calendar), Charles XII positioned his 8,140 men opposite the besieging Russian army of about 37,000 troops. The Swedish army was commanded personally by Charles XII, assisted by General Carl Gustav Rehnskiöld. The Russian forces were commanded by Tsar Peter and Charles Eugène de Croy. Claiming important "domestic events" in Russia to attend to, Peter had left Narva in fear just days before and was therefore not present during the actual fighting.
    For much of the day, a blizzard engulfed both armies, making attacks impossible. However, at midday, the winds changed and the snowstorm blew directly into the eyes of the Russians. Charles XII saw his opportunity and advanced on the Russian army under cover of the weather. The Swedes quickly broke through the Russian lines in several places, scattering their opponents, who could offer little resistance. In the chaos, some of the Russian soldiers killed their foreign officers, whom they hated. At one crucial point, a bridge over river Narva collapsed under retreating Russian troops. The bulk of the Russian army was trapped on the Estonian side of the river.
    At dawn, it was clear that the Swedish army had won a stunning victory, but the force was relatively small and they had advanced on Narva in marches with scarce supplies for two days. One Swedish cavalry officer suddenly found himself in front of a fully armed Russian infantry company. He signed to them to lay down their arms, and they obliged. The Swedish troops discovered not only food in the Russian camp, but also liquor. Drunkenness broke out in the Swedish ranks. Nevertheless, the Swedish command managed to retain basic control of the army, however the overall number of Russian prisoners of the war were far to great to handle for the Swedish force. Consequently, common soldiers and NCO's were disarmed and sent back to Russia. Only Russian officers were made prisoners of war. In the end the Russian army was utterly defeated and the Swedes retained Narva.
    The Russian surrender brought to Charles XII's army all of Peter's cannons, muskets and military supplies. This left Russia's remaining armed forces with essentially no equipment. If Sweden, or any other aggressor, had invaded Russia immediately after Narva, Peter would have been almost powerless to stop them."
    So I went back to the store to buy it for a dollar!! Now my question is, would this be ok for a Sweden's field march? If not I only spent a buck, and it will add to my research. Let me know what you guys (and Gals) think!


    Hello everyone!

    I read the comment about Narvamarschen by Hollowfaith and I just had to register and comment back.

    My swedish forces have been marching to Narvamarschen for some time now.
    I'm not using a recording of me playing it, but a recording I made from youtube.
    I think it's the only swedish battle march that have been preserved from that era.
    Some say it was performed for the first time in 1701 during a play called Narvabaletten.
    Here is a good examle of it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enuqz4E9ZP8

    Edit:
    Oh, Lasken beat me to it.
    If I just would've had written a little sooner and a little faster..
    Last edited by Peacerich; April 02, 2009 at 03:38 PM.

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    Haha, sorry 'bout that I also registred now to take part in this

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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    Haha no problem

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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    Can you use both the German ones at the same time? For example the British play two different tunes don't they at random? Same with them French ones. Thanks.

    OK this is strange, I added all of the mods on the front page, but just one of each faction. I edited the user.empire file to include them and went ingame. I tested with Prussian V French line... they are both playing the ottoman tune! What have I done wrong?
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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    @Vanquisher - You can only use one mod patch at a time as they all modify the same 4 files. In the games current state the music is not faction specific and it will play for all factions. Also it will only play UP to 4 of the march files in one of my packs at any one time. The sounds also seem to be hit or miss with the latest patches released by CA. So like I advised above, before play remove the unwanted music pack out of the data folder and move the pack you want into your data folder. I keep a folder outside of empire just for this purpose.

    Also there is no need to add the files name to your user script as they are in patch format which is slightly more advantageous at the present time than making them in the mod format.
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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    Sorry, I didn't read the front page properly, and thanks.

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    Keep up the good work there, Hollowfaith!

    Man, it was a real pain in the *** to find any music Sweden was using during that time period, and I'm a Swede, so I can imagine how hard it must have been for you.

    The one I found (Narvamarschen) is probably the same as you mentioned earlier (Battle of Narva) and I belive that one will most certainly work as Swedish march music. Also I found one a few webpages that music piece called "Carl XII:s fältmarsch" (Charles XII:s field march, or something similar in english).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enuqz4E9ZP8

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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    Just popped in to give my compliments on the mod. I'm currently using the Lilliburlero (sp?) one, and it adds so much atmosphere to the game. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Drum and Fife Mod by Hollowfaith aka Caligula

    Thanks!
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