Volleys ineffective at close range

**bangell99** · March 14, 2009, 03:41 PM

In history, films and many other games, one waits until the enemy is very close to him (25 - 50 yards at the least) before unleashing a devastating volley. In Empire, I just set "fire at will" on, and shoot as soon as the enemy are in range.
This is because volleys do only slightly more damage at long range than they do at close range. Furthermore, sometimes if I try and fire at the last second, my men decide to spread out for some reason, and get charged. But that's kinda besides the point.
Someone has already found that range affects accuracy, though not by a huge amount. I'd like to know how I can edit the way range affects accuracy, so that my last-second volleys are almost certainly devastating.
If anyone could possibly help with this, I'd appreciate it immensely. It's just a really nagging annoyance with this game.

**Dud doodoo** · March 14, 2009, 03:44 PM

I don't know how to do it, I haven't looked into it very much; but I would assume that increasing the rifle's range then decreasing it's accuracy should do the trick?

**bangell99** · March 14, 2009, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dud doodoo

I don't know how to do it, I haven't looked into it very much; but I would assume that increasing the rifle's range then decreasing it's accuracy should do the trick?

That's not exactly what I want - I want them to be more accurate at closer ranges. Ranges and long-range accuracy are fine.

**Dud doodoo** · March 14, 2009, 04:07 PM

Well you see, if you increase the range units will normally engage each other at the maximum distance, where with poor accuracy they get less kills, and if you fire closer the shots are much more likely to hit.

The distance/accuracy relation does exist, so if you make the total distance longer it will be more noticeable.

**campesino** · March 14, 2009, 04:44 PM

so, is there an easy way to make firing far more deadly, i have some modding skils in rtw but since medieval 2 the files are packed and i have no idea how to crack them, i really jaja want some 30 ft skirmish to be deadly so no unit would take more than 3 shots before running

**Mikhail Tomasovic** · March 14, 2009, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by campesino

so, is there an easy way to make firing far more deadly, i have some modding skils in rtw but since medieval 2 the files are packed and i have no idea how to crack them, i really jaja want some 30 ft skirmish to be deadly so no unit would take more than 3 shots before running

use the unpacker in the thread at the top of this forum

**notger** · March 14, 2009, 05:07 PM

Well, it does not support the projectiles_tables, where I suppose the values bangell99 wants to change are stored. It is just a guess from previous TW-titles, but I expect it to be a good one.

Bangell99, if you ask Matt Chambers to parse projectiles_tables, maybe he will implement it.

**bangell99** · March 15, 2009, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by notger

Well, it does not support the projectiles_tables, where I suppose the values bangell99 wants to change are stored. It is just a guess from previous TW-titles, but I expect it to be a good one.

Bangell99, if you ask Matt Chambers to parse projectiles_tables, maybe he will implement it.

Very well, I will try that.