Race and religion i just don't get it

[foxnds]

Why is it that if some one says something Against Islam there called A racist .
I JUST don't UNDER STAND Isn't Islam A non racially discriminatory religion? its not just in the Mideast it also in east Asia many other place is are around the globe. so please tell me why people use race in there arguments especially on this forum why is it that if some one says something Against Islam or makes some kind comment thats not PC about it there called A racist.
Please I would just like two know why is it just A something to make the other person look bad or is there really reason behind this?

[removeduser_487563287433]

It's because they mean to call you a biggot and perhaps do not have the vocabulary.

[Dunecat]

Why is it that if some one says something Against Islam there called A racist .
I JUST don't UNDER STAND Isn't Islam A non racially discriminatory religion? its not just in the Mideast it also in east Asia many other place is are around the globe. so please tell me why people use race in there arguments especially on this forum why is it that if some one says something Against Islam or makes some kind comment thats not PC about it there called A racist.
Please I would just like two know why is it just A something to make the other person look bad or is there really reason behind this?

Criticizing Islam isn't necessarily racist, though most are not educated in its doctrine and history. I'd wager you were just being an ass and got called out on it. It all depends on the context and background.

Also, "not-PC" sometimes means a prejudiced or ignorant comment.

Moar details pl0x.

Also, I agree with Ferrets.

[foxnds]

Criticizing Islam isn't necessarily racist, though most are not educated in its doctrine and history. I'd wager you were just being an ass and got called out on it. It all depends on the context and background.

Also, "not-PC" sometimes means a prejudiced or ignorant comment.

Moar details pl0x.

Also, I agree with Ferrets.

No I was referring two others I myself have never been called that.


Well its just like being called racist on border policies it really has no reason there are plenty of racial groups other than Hispanics in
Mexico.

Well I see some of your points but I still think it Just A dirty tactic.

[Erik]

Why is it that if some one says something Against Islam there called A racist .

Because people who say they are against Islam are really against Arabs and North Africans.

Westerners who convert to Islam aren't under attack, and neither are Indonesians or Indians.
It's just when the "Islam" came from the Middle East or Morocco that they are seen as a "dirty terrorist religion".

[Valiant Champion]

Because people who say they are against Islam are really against Arabs and North Africans.

Westerners who convert to Islam aren't under attack, and neither are Indonesians or Indians.
It's just when the "Islam" came from the Middle East or Morocco that they are seen as a "dirty terrorist religion".

[mongrel]

Depends on the context and language used.

I would never call Dawkins or Condell racist. As far as I know they confine their remarks purely on the religion. Wilders on the other hand uses his hatred of Islam as code for a more sinister purpose.

[Visna]

Questioning, criticizing or rediculing Islam as a religion is fine in my book. You cross the line when you criticize or redicule the people who adhere to the religion for no other reason than they do so.

Example A:
Scientology is a retarded concept. (Then preferrably come with a few reasons as to why you think it's retarded).

Example B:
Tom Cruise is retarded because he is into that retarded Scientology nonsense.

Basic and very crude examples, but I haven't even had my morning coffee yet, so I'm excused.

[Fiyenyaa]

Depends on the context and language used.

I would never call Dawkins or Condell racist. As far as I know they confine their remarks purely on the religion. Wilders on the other hand uses his hatred of Islam as code for a more sinister purpose.

Exactly. When someone is disagreeing with Islam on theological grounds, it would be very difficult to make the leap that they are being racist - since theology has (in most cases) nothing to do with race.
However, when someone's saying that you should stop 'Muslim immigration' what most people really mean is Arab immigration. Or at least, that certainly seems the case for Wilders.

[Central Asian Qaghan]

When you critizie the idea that fine, but when you critizie the people behind the idea, like Scar face does, then its racist.

The idea of attacking Christanity is good because you attack the idea instead of attacking the pope for Christanity. The Pope is off limits, the Religion Christanity is not.

[Scar Face]

Why is it that if some one says something Against Islam there called A racist .
I JUST don't UNDER STAND Isn't Islam A non racially discriminatory religion? its not just in the Mideast it also in east Asia many other place is are around the globe. so please tell me why people use race in there arguments especially on this forum why is it that if some one says something Against Islam or makes some kind comment thats not PC about it there called A racist.
Please I would just like two know why is it just A something to make the other person look bad or is there really reason behind this?

It's because people who follow PC are [on average] mentally retarded.

[Martin N]

I personally cant believe in some mythical man born/created/made up 2000 years ago, to be honest, im shocked the lie has lasted this long, the amount of hatred and blood spilt for this lie is shocking, to me, if there really was a being who ruled over us, he would not let the earth be as corrupt as it is now, all the murders go on, all the wars continue, all the famine and disease spread he just wouldent, something as powerful that can create a world in 7 days, could correct it in 7 days too.

Im not going to add something like im sorry if i hurt your feelings or whatever, because i think political correctness these days stinks, i do however respect others choices, therefore people must respect mine.

[roy34543]

I personally cant believe in some mythical man born/created/made up 2000 years ago, to be honest, im shocked the lie has lasted this long, the amount of hatred and blood spilt for this lie is shocking, to me, if there really was a being who ruled over us, he would not let the earth be as corrupt as it is now, all the murders go on, all the wars continue, all the famine and disease spread he just wouldent, something as powerful that can create a world in 7 days, could correct it in 7 days too.

Not to make this a theological debate, but your generalizing here. quite a few people believe god wants us to make our own mistakes and not correct everything (if theres no hardship then its hard to find joy in life) and some simply believe god made the universe but left us long ago for unknown reasons.

Im not going to add something like im sorry if i hurt your feelings or whatever, because i think political correctness these days stinks, i do however respect others choices, therefore people must respect mine.

I think were better off for political correctness, Most peopl view the world in black and white, and its better off that theyre on the white side.

[Scar Face]

I think were better off for political correctness, Most peopl view the world in black and white, and its better off that theyre on the white side.

Political correctness is all about assuming that minorities will be offended by any connection to what they are, what they were, or what the majority was. It's all about accepting the fact that one must fear confrontation with others, and watch what they say. It's practically facist. Remember that seinfeld episode? The one with the Indian who gets offended by an Indian statue, a Chinese man gets offended because Jerry asks where a Chinese restaurant is. What jerry says- were all too easily offended- is 100% correct. Political correctness takes all the animosity and hate that already exists and legitimizes it, and tells everyone to STFU and fear it. Political correctness has NOT done good, WILL not do good, and CAN NOT do good.

[Central Asian Qaghan]

Political correctness is all about assuming that minorities will be offended by any connection to what they are, what they were, or what the majority was. It's all about accepting the fact that one must fear confrontation with others, and watch what they say. It's practically facist. Remember that seinfeld episode? The one with the Indian who gets offended by an Indian statue, a Chinese man gets offended because Jerry asks where a Chinese restaurant is. What jerry says- were all too easily offended- is 100% correct. Political correctness takes all the animosity and hate that already exists and legitimizes it, and tells everyone to STFU and fear it. Political correctness has NOT done good, WILL not do good, and CAN NOT do good.

Wouldn`t you rather point it out and way that PC actions only hurt the white man, because seriously thats the only race you`re looking at when you say that.

[Scar Face]

Wouldn`t you rather point it out and way that PC actions only hurt the white man, because seriously thats the only race you`re looking at when you say that.

Yes, it is, because I am White. Oh ***ing no, I am biased.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Political correctness is all about assuming that minorities will be offended by any connection to what they are, what they were, or what the majority was. It's all about accepting the fact that one must fear confrontation with others, and watch what they say. It's practically facist. Remember that seinfeld episode? The one with the Indian who gets offended by an Indian statue, a Chinese man gets offended because Jerry asks where a Chinese restaurant is. What jerry says- were all too easily offended- is 100% correct. Political correctness takes all the animosity and hate that already exists and legitimizes it, and tells everyone to STFU and fear it. Political correctness has NOT done good, WILL not do good, and CAN NOT do good.

I think your problem is not seeing the irony of being able to rant as much as you like about political correctness in whatever politically incorrect terms you wish.

[Martin N]

Not to make this a theological debate, but your generalizing here. quite a few people believe god wants us to make our own mistakes and not correct everything (if theres no hardship then its hard to find joy in life) and some simply believe god made the universe but left us long ago for unknown reasons.



I think were better off for political correctness, Most peopl view the world in black and white, and its better off that theyre on the white side.

If he wants us to make our own mistakes, hes had plenty of time to correct us, weve been making mistakes our whole existence, i just really cannot believe something that is nothing short of a myth, i mean anyone can right a book, i mean seriously, i take it your christian or a follower of a religion that follows god, dont you question his existance ? are you really okay with following something that for all intents and purposes, no one can prove exists, i mean your better worshipping your family and friends, atleast there real. And to be honest, i would think us killing each other in his name is a big enough mistake to warrant intervention, but thats me, there is one good reason for religion, without god, us pitiful masses would have to find something else to worship, and it would most likeley be something like our government, then wed be in real trouble.

If im honest with myself, I see christianity, and many other religions as a cult...except there legal

[Eskali]

Not to make this a theological debate, but your generalizing here. quite a few people believe god wants us to make our own mistakes and not correct everything (if theres no hardship then its hard to find joy in life) and some simply believe god made the universe but left us long ago for unknown reasons.

Uh huh, so why is everything "Gods Plan" e.g.It was part of gods plan that this person died. Why did God create the earth with diseases and virus's(sp?), why did god allow humuns to be affected by radiation. Look at this and tell me that God "Loves us" and allows this to happen to the human body, his creation. They are just chidren and they have experianced more pain and hardship than you ever have. It's easy for you to say "if theres no hardship then its hard to find joy in life".
http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/D...ide25mar04.htm

Edit-Spelling, dont mean to attack you just the perspective on life you described.

[Gazi Husrev-Beg]

Why is it that if some one says something Against Islam there called A racist .
I JUST don't UNDER STAND Isn't Islam A non racially discriminatory religion? its not just in the Mideast it also in east Asia many other place is are around the globe. so please tell me why people use race in there arguments especially on this forum why is it that if some one says something Against Islam or makes some kind comment thats not PC about it there called A racist.
Please I would just like two know why is it just A something to make the other person look bad or is there really reason behind this?

Whooooooooooooooo rejects sharia!

I remeber whn i came to Norway and started learning norwegian. During christmas we were sometimes encouraged singing norwegian christmas songs last hour. Teacher got litterally shocked whn we said that we had Islamic heritage. "You dont look like muslims" she said.
Yet there was few people from middle east, ( I dont remeber what country, Irak or Iran) who were christian. They were excused from singing, she didnt want to insult them i guess.