Jon Stewart vs Jim Cramer

[Whitey5150]

Ok, did anyone watch the daily show today? oh my god, i dont even know where to start.

John Stewart tore apart cramer tonight. And if can say so myself, America needed somebodys ass kicked in the economics department. Its about time those sick idiots get what they deserve. And even better, on national television.

I'm hoping Obama makes Stewart an American Hero after this.

but anyways, put your opinions and so forth on here. I'd really like to hear them.

[Zephyrus]

Cramer got owned.

[bushbush]

first rule of being a TV personality: you gotta learn to have no shame...

i really don't think Cramer cares.

[Whitey5150]

first rule of being a TV personality: you gotta learn to have no shame...

i really don't think Cramer cares.

I could really tell he was struggling though. I bet this is going to hurt his ratings.

[JustShoveJayOhBe]

One of Cramer's best friends is/was former New York Attorney General & Governor Elliot Spitzer. Enough said.

[Dunecat]

Pretty boring, to be honest. Wasn't any FrostvNixon, there just wasn't any time, and Cramer is no Nixon.

Though Leibowitz performed well, he still stepped over his guest like always. Cramer simply lay down and craned his neck, there was no contest. Jon wasn't right all the time, and it was pitiful how the audience clapped for things they did not understand.

There's no doubt the man is doing a service, but it's a sad statement when a comedian is a model of real journalism. There's only so much you can fit in a half hour but I'm still glad I tuned in.

Those are my thoughts.

Can't wait till Monday's show.

[Erik]

Great show.

But as Steward pointed out: this wasn't aimed at Cramer personally, but at "financial advice TV" in general.

There's no doubt the man is doing a service, but it's a sad statement when a comedian is a model of real journalism.

Yes, it's sad the "real" journalists aren't doing their job.

I think Steward would actually make a good journalist, his talent isn't limited to telling jokes.

There's only so much you can fit in a half hour

Most TV "interviews" in America last less than 5 minutes.

[Don in the North]

anyone know where i can get a transcript of the conversation?
like instead of audio, text representing the sentences spoken, cant find anything on google atm

[Whitey5150]

anyone know where i can get a transcript of the conversation?
like instead of audio, text representing the sentences spoken, cant find anything on google atm

hulu.com?

[YuriVII]

Favorite quote:
Cramer: There is a market for it [getting rich w/o working]
Stewart: Yeah there's a market for cocaine and hookers.

[jsktrogdor]

It did feel a bit like they were not only killing the messanger but draging him through the streets with a cross on his back. I started to feel bad for Cramer, especially during the clips that Stewert brought up where he condones illegal and immoral activity. This is the reason why Stewert doesnt get the interviews he should; because when he gets a shot at someone, he doesnt around, he goes strait for the throat. People who he should be interviewing like dick cheney, george bush, and those less obvious but equally corrupt and innept are afraid to come near his show. I gotta give credit to Cramer, he knew he was walking into the gauntlet.

[Admiral Piett]

It did feel a bit like they were not only killing the messanger but draging him through the streets with a cross on his back. I started to feel bad for Cramer, especially during the clips that Stewert brought up where he condones illegal and immoral activity. This is the reason why Stewert doesnt get the interviews he should; because when he gets a shot at someone, he doesnt around, he goes strait for the throat. People who he should be interviewing like dick cheney, george bush, and those less obvious but equally corrupt and innept are afraid to come near his show. I gotta give credit to Cramer, he knew he was walking into the gauntlet.

I agree. I felt a little bit bad for him too. He's just a guy on a TV show for this stuff.

I'd LOVE to see a Jon Stewart interview of say Dick Cheney. Stewart has a way of using jokes to relax you and then goes in for a deep stab.

[Visna]

I'd LOVE to see a Jon Stewart interview of say Dick Cheney. Stewart has a way of using jokes to relax you and then goes in for a deep stab.

Stewart > all.
He is really good at coming close to people with soft talk, and then rip their ing heart out.

[Erik]

It did feel a bit like they were not only killing the messanger but draging him through the streets with a cross on his back. I started to feel bad for Cramer, especially during the clips that Stewert brought up where he condones illegal and immoral activity.

That was actually one of the good things that Cramer has done.

It's unfortunate that Cramer didn't better defend his choice to openly talk about those illegal and immoral activities.
You see, his point was to WARN private investors that these things are going on.
In the same clip he literally said that private investors can never win because the big boys (like himself) manipulate the markets. (they didn't show that part on the Daily Show, but it's out there somewhere on the internets).

[mongrel]

LOL thanks for the heads up.

Here's the video for those who haven't seen it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_174503.html

Excellent comment made


Daniel Sinker: "This Song Ain't About You": The Media Misses the Real Message of the Stewart/Cramer Interview

When we can't compete with a comic in terms of speaking truth to power, then it's more clear than ever that journalism in the US has lost its way. Traditional news organizations have nothing to lose right now.

[Gideon Goldgod]

Check out when Lebowitz was on CSPAN.

This interview did show again why I don't like Lebowitz, he is utterly smug in his talking points.
He tries to come off as an expert then says "I just tell fart jokes" to keep from being criticized. He acts like a totally smug professor scolding a student who tries to argue back.

It is good that Lebowitz laid down this complicated situation between stock broker elites and us main street norms in an easy to understand manner though. Good for him on that.

But there is one thing that absolutely jumped out at me, Crammer was not ever a target for Lebowitz until Crammer began blaiming this financial situation on Pres. Obama. Before that statement Crammer made on his own show, Lebowitz kept to blaiming Pres. Bush for the financial meltdown and not really the stock broker selfishness itself.
"The Daily Show" is just as much a partisan representation of news as FOX or MSNBC. But worse, "The Daily Show" hides its indoctrinated news as comedy. I do know many college and high school kids who get their only news from Colbert and Leobowitz and the situation is disgusting.

[JP226]

well, I think the problem with the interview is that it was two totally different worlds colliding. Stewart did well given his audience who know all about finance and economics. Stewart from my pov didn't bring anything of substance anymore than Cramer did. Cramer was just crap all around. I was hoping for him to really show an expertise and explain it to the "little people" who tend to be more ideologically driven versus any adherence to the real world. Unfortunately Cramer is just as big a buffoon nd couldn't even do that.

[Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus]

well, I think the problem with the interview is that it was two totally different worlds colliding. Stewart did well given his audience who know all about finance and economics. Stewart from my pov didn't bring anything of substance anymore than Cramer did. Cramer was just crap all around. I was hoping for him to really show an expertise and explain it to the "little people" who tend to be more ideologically driven versus any adherence to the real world. Unfortunately Cramer is just as big a buffoon nd couldn't even do that.

Your missing the point. The Argument was not meant to be an at-lengths discussion of the economy or the Financial markets. It was rather an Inquisition into the reputability of Cramer, and CNBC as a Financial news network. I think Stewart destroyed Cramer as he did Crossfire in 2003.

[Farnan]

Stewart is a great interviewer, and he changes his style based on who he is interviewing and for what. He knows how to get the info he wants out of people...

[C-Rob]

I didn't see that interveiw, but i did see a few weeks ago him talking to DC's new representative and made her and all of DC look like asses. My favorite moment of him so far.