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    Hi

    I have started a campaing some time ago as the julii and now i am at the sythian area
    And i hate them becouse of there Freckin! Horsearchers! I have not figured out how to
    beat Them My Best Army Got Slaughted becouse Of Those Freckin Idiots&#33; :><
    I realy need some help on this one&#33; How To Beat Horsearchers Is The Question
    I want revenge&#33; So Thanks In Advance Ow and for Moderators I have Done A
    Search For ( Horsearcher ) And It came up with a heep ow Dung.... *tongue*

    Thanks In Advance&#33;

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    fight fire with fire. Archers are good as horses are easy to hit, plus missile cavalry has WEAK armour (except cataphract archers :>< ) Legionaries are also godd, stick &#39;em in Testudo and wait for the horse archers run out of ammo then chase them around until they stand and fight. You could also use light cavalry to hit them but don&#39;t bet on an easy fight. :erm. You could always try onagers and ballistas to smack great holes in &#39;em or you could mod your soldiers :happy

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    Do just as Clinelly said, muster whatever archers and counterfire. Your advantage in number (means more arrows, 80vs54) will ensure your victory.
    Also, when fighting horsearchers, esp. cheap ones, I suggest you to set half or 1/3 of your archers to use fire. Normal arrows attack physical status(kills). Fire arrows attack mantal status (scares). Combined together, they are best against cheap, low-morale units.
    For countering high-class HAs such as Noble archers, use fire only when their numbers went down like below 30%.

    Watch out for Cantabrian Cirles, Canta is real archer killer. If enemy uses Canta circles, either concentrate fire and use flame arrows extensively and hope for the best, or simply chase them with your own cavs. HAs cannot get away from pursuing cavs while they are in Canta mode.
    Personally, I recommend latter.

    Hope this helps

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    You can always try to bribe an army of horse archers/chariots. Don&#39;t do this too much (it&#39;s quite expensive, and the popularity with the people goes down if you don&#39;t win enough battles). So, sent a spy to their army, and when there are too much horse archers or/and chariots, bribe &#39;em.
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    i hate horse archers, as soon as my calvary gets near them they just run. this one round, my legionary calvary chased this one unit of HA literally around the entire map until they finally killed one horse which made the HA melee and get slaughtered.

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    i hate horse archers, as soon as my calvary gets near them they just run. this one round, my legionary calvary chased this one unit of HA literally around the entire map until they finally killed one horse which made the HA melee and get slaughtered.
    oh yes. that is the single most annoying thing about missile cavalry.
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    Hmmmm. I will go to testudo till they dont have any ammos left then kick

    there asses after

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    If you&#39;re cunning enough, sometimes you can send one unit of cavalry to attack them from the front and one from behind. You have to have a lot of space to pull it off though.
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    Use foot archers for counter fire and light cavalry to hit them as soon as they approach to close.Bribing i the other way of cource.try also to use as much as possible elite archers in order to exploit the longer range.Mercenery Cretan are good if you own faction do have good ones or they arent available yet.

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    baleistas or scripitors I know I miss spelled them but they work wonders againts the horse archers cause they have a longer range. Plus the archers might just try to charge them after a while then you can counter change with your horses or infantry.

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    Well, if horse archers go loose formation and cant. circle on you, your legions are toasted..but yea just drive a bunch of light cavalry into that thin line and that should do the trick.

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    and when the archers are in cant. circle they are very week in Melee if you can get close enough ....
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    I despise people who in MP battles just get a lot of horse archers and do circles while killing everything that gets remotely near.

    THATS RIGHT I HATE YOU.

    (I have beaten them though :p)

    That said, its a legitimate strategy and a reason why the eastern factions were powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuwxiv View Post
    I despise people who in MP battles just get a lot of horse archers and do circles while killing everything that gets remotely near.

    THATS RIGHT I HATE YOU.

    (I have beaten them though :p)

    That said, its a legitimate strategy and a reason why the eastern factions were powerful.
    An army full of spartans or anything that can form tustedo will win that battle almost everytime. With tustedo you can absorb all their arrows and force them into melee. Or the spartans can usually out last their supply of arrows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuwxiv View Post
    I despise people who in MP battles just get a lot of horse archers and do circles while killing everything that gets remotely near.

    THATS RIGHT I HATE YOU.

    (I have beaten them though :p)

    That said, its a legitimate strategy and a reason why the eastern factions were powerful.
    I had an online battle I was the GSS I looked like this:
    >>>s--s--s--s--s--
    >>>>--CA--CA--CA-----------
    --AH--AH--AH--AH--AH--AH---

    He had a Sycthn noble H/A spam.

    my arcers got killed but I charged my front line of spartens killing allmost no H/As but all my spartens but I exused them and they did almost no damage to my AH I lost a lot of them but he lost all but six Exusted out of arrows nobles.

    So it now looked abit like this:

    /// \\\

    AH--AH--AH

    I won!


    \\\<AH AH>\\\

    Not sure what happened in the center.

    EDIT:Its a bit messted up my AH were past the wings on both sides
    Last edited by War lord; December 14, 2008 at 12:09 AM. Reason: Formation was messted up.

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    What you do is make a big U out of your troops until you corner them into the side of the battle map then slowly close in with your troops. Usually before you corner them they pick your weakest link and try to run through, then you use the nearby troops to merge into that pile while their fighting through your pile use all your other troops for the kill. Works every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vopohame
    What you do is make a big U out of your troops until you corner them into the side of the battle map then slowly close in with your troops. Usually before you corner them they pick your weakest link and try to run through, then you use the nearby troops to merge into that pile while their fighting through your pile use all your other troops for the kill. Works every time.
    You are playing single player campaign, right? Then vopohame's advice is right on. You charge 1 or 2 cav directly at the HA; and keep flanking cav out to the sides and ahead of your attacking cav, to turn back the inevitable HA attempt to escape to the side. The HA quickly run out of room to run; because you've trapped them against a boundary or such; and they are toast. You will still take casualties, but lots less than if you left them alone. This is typically my first order of business in a battle with an enemy force that includes HA.

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    Not if they have 2 horse archers and I have 3 heavy calv, or 3 infantry. They just stand back and pick me off. My infantry or slow cav isn&#39;t anywhere near fast enough to force them anywhere.

    But generally, you can trap them somehow. Still, it is very annoying. :angry *viking* *bringiton*

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    I despise people who in MP battles just get a lot of horse archers and do circles while killing everything that gets remotely near.

    THATS RIGHT I HATE YOU.
    Now you hate me...lol
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    My personal suggestion is send your worse units after them. They will run away and continue to attack you (and you will lose a lot of units if you didn&#39;t put them in loose formation). Eventually they will run out and then charge. Then you can send any thing you want against them because they have light armor, and poor weapons; so they are easily taken down by cavalry or infantry
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