danova, on the chest should be only buttons, without other detailsand You can add white (or yellow) gaitres. They are in Grenadiers texture.
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danova, on the chest should be only buttons, without other detailsand You can add white (or yellow) gaitres. They are in Grenadiers texture.
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1) Anyone working on adding Grenadiers to the Swedish collection?There were actually Grenadiers during this time...
2) If anyone needs me doing something, I'm glad to help. I can change texture, gloss maps and I got this book "Karoliner" in front of me with 200 pages of uniforms, colours, history etcetera including the internet. Tell me anything and I'll do my best.
What I can't do at the moment (which I think no one can) is to change hats, shoes, coat etcetera.
Well if you can change textures you earn a spot in the team
How do you mean change hats, shoes and coats? you mean modells?
I can't change a tricorn into a grenadier hat for an example, nor I can change high boots into low shoes. Neither I have the knowledge to change from a Line Infantry coat into another coat.
But I guess no one can do that unless you create a new unit, yet you have to take another already existing units' model.
Actually i think it's releated to that equipment texture. But i dont really know.
Look at the legs, they are perfect for swedish infantry. Bad though that no one can modell so far ...
(KLAs British Grenadiers)
What regiment is this?
The Swedish army always had a tendency to use old uniforms until worn out before switching to the new standard - to save money. Here's a rough breakdown on how the uniforms changed during the 1700s.
1700-1765 all units used the Karolinean standard uniform, with very few exceptions and variations - these have been well covered in this topic so far, so I won't go there. The Life Guard started using turned-up coat buttonings around 1724 or so. The uniform changed minimally until the great reform 1765. So during the Hat's Russian war 1741-1742 and the Pommeranian war (part of the 7 years' war) 1757-1762, the Swedish troops looked almost exactly like they did during the Great Nordic War 1700-1721.
1765, the uniform was changed. The tricorn was kept, but the socks were switched for long buttoned black leather spats, giving the impression of boots reaching above the knee. The European standard of a coat only buttoned the first three buttons (from the top) and the button are turned up. The general colours and the corners folded up was maintained, while a jacket was introduced under the coat. Belts and baldric was not white instead of beige/leather. The ammo poach was black leather.
1765 uniform
Musketeer
Drummer
NCO
Note that some units, like before 1765, had some variations, like white pants, jacket and lining of the coat (and thus on the cuffs and the folder coat) and/or no turned up button area.
Here's an excellent page with aquarell paintings of the new uniforms for each regiment in 1765.
Colours of the regiments in the 1765 uniform, infantry.
Björneborgs Läns Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, white lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Dalregementet: Blue coat, no button turnup, white lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Drottningens Livregmente (Guards): Blue coat, red button turnup, red lining, cuffs, blue collar, white trousers and jacket.
Hessensteinska Regementet: Blue coat, yellow button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, white trousers and jacket.
Hälsinge Regemente: Blue coat, white button turnup, white lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Jönköpings Läns Regemente: Light blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, red cuffs, red collar, yellow trousers and jacket.
Kalmar Läns Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, red cuffs, red collar, yellow trousers and jacket.
Kronobergs Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, red cuffs, red collar, yellow trousers and jacket.
Kronprinsens Regemente (Guard): Blue coat, yellow button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, white trousers and jacket.
Livgardet till fot (Guards): Blue coat, yellow button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Nylands Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Närke-Värmlands Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, red lining, cuffs, collar, white trousers and jacket.
Prins Fredrik Adolfs Regemente (Guards): Blue coat, red button turnup, white lining, red cuffs, collar, white trousers and jacket.
Skaraborgs Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, blue cuffs, collar, yellow trousers and jacket.
Savolax Regemente (Light Infantry): Blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Spensiska Regementet: Blue coat, red button turnup, red lining, cuffs, blue collar, white trousers and jacket.
Sprengtportens Värvade Regemente (Light Infantry): Blue coat, red button turnup, red lining, cuffs, blue collar, white trousers and jacket.
Södermanlands Regemente: Blue coat, yellow button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, blue collar, yellow trousers and jacket.
Tavastehus Läns Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Upplands Regemente: Blue coat, yellow button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Västerbottens Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, white lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Västgöta-Dals Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, blue collar, yellow trousers and jacket.
Västmanlands Regemente: Blue coat, yellow button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Åbo Läns Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, white lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Älvsborgs Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Österbottens Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, white lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Östgöta Regemente: Blue coat, no button turnup, yellow lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Colours of the regiments in the 1765 uniform, cavalry.
Bohusläns Dragonregemente (Dragoons): Green coat, blue button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Hussarregementet: Blue jacket and dolmen, black hussar's tchako, blue trousers with yellow stripe, black boots.
Jämtlands Dragonregemente (Dragoons): Blue coat, blue button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Karelska Dragonkåren (Dragoons): Blue coat, yellow button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Norra Skånska Kavalleriregementet: Blue coat, chamois/sand/beige button turnup, blue lining, blue cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Nylands och Tavastehus Dragonregemente (Dragoons): Blue coat, yellow button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Livregementet till häst (Guards Cavalry): Blue coat, white button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Smålands kavalleriregemente: Blue coat, yellow button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Södra Skånska Kavalleriregementet: Blue coat, chamois/sand/beige button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Västgöta Kavalleriregemente: Blue coat, yellow button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Åbo och Björneborgs Läns Kavalleriregemente: Blue coat, yellow button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Östgöta Kavalleriregemente: Blue coat, blue button turnup, lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket, black boots.
Colours of the regiments in the 1765 uniform, artillery.
Artilleriregementet: Blue coat, blue button turnup, blue lining, cuffs, collar, trousers and jacket.
Next post, the 1779 uniform.
Last edited by von Adler; March 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM.
One of the marches i would love to see in this mod!
March of the Finnish Cavalry ( Swedish reitermarch)
(turn your speakers up!)
Cant see it
Would it be okay for you guys if we didnt show all regiments? Just 2 different line infantry types, and 2 elites. I mean its a large thing to deal with and this would make it all easier.
I can't wait for this mod! keep up the good work. Im realy looking forward to this. To bad i can't help you, don't know a squat about modding,
My suggestions for skins;
Early light infantry/militia
Early pikemen
Early line infantry
Early light cavalry/dragoons
Early heavy cavalry
Early guards cavalry
Early guards (works for mid too)
Early grenadiers
Early artillerymen
Mid light infantry/jägers
Mid line infantry
Mid light cavalry/hussars
Mid heavy cavalry
Mid guards cavalry
Mid artillerymen
Late light infantry/jägers
Late line infantry
Late light cavalry/hussars
Late heavy cavalry
Late guards cavalry
Late guards
Late artillerymen
I can suggest a standard uniform for each - for example, one could use one regiment for early pikemen, one for light infantry and one for line infantry. How about that?
It would more be like "Svenskt linjeinfanteri" (swedish line infantry) and "Finskt linjeinfanteri" (finnish line infantry) And "Drabanter" instead of Guard Cavalry.
I have gotten a message from another team (wont say which until its official)
and they have asked me about joining their mod.
Nothing will be changed, just that swedish faction is one of many, and we get help from experienced modders.
There were no difference between Finnish and Swedish regiments at the time, so I don't see why there needs to be a distinction.
Since Sweden never fought in the 1765 uniform, I guess the mid-stuff coudl be ditched.
Drabanter never reached more than 200 men at any given time. They represent the General's unit much better than Guards. My suggestion for skins/units, then.
Early
Uppbåd (Citizen's Militia)
Värvade musketare (Militia)
Pikenerare (Pikemen)
Musketare (Line Infantry)
Grenadjärer (Grenadiers)
Dragoner (Dragoons)
Kavalleri (Heavy Cavalry - there were no light cavalry at this time, all was either shock cavalry or dragoons)
Livgarde (Guards)
Livgarde till häst (Horse Guards)
Drabanter (General's Guard)
Artillerister (Artillerymen)
Late
Uppbåd (Citizen's Militia)
Värvat infanteri (Militia)
Jägare (Light Infantry/Riflemen)
Infanteri (Line Infantry)
Hussarer (Light Cavalry)
Kavalleri (Heavy Cavalry)
Livgarde (Guards)
Livgarde till häst (Horse Guard)
Livdrabanter (General's Guard)
Artillerister (Artillerymen)
Last edited by von Adler; March 23, 2009 at 10:50 AM.
Im going to do this:
Two units for line infantry, regular
Two units for Elite Infantry, elite
But i need to know which regiments that was said to be the best ones at foot?
Do you want 1700, 1765, or 1779 uniform (which regiment was best varied with time)?
In Peter Englunds book "Poltava" he says that Dalregementet had a reputation of being an elite unit and an unofficial guard unit.