Sudan, North Korea among least free states: report

[Nikos]

http://www.reuters.com/article/world...BrandChannel=0

"Within these entities, state control over daily life is pervasive and wide-ranging, independent organizations and political opposition are banned or suppressed, and fear of retribution for independent thought and action is part of daily life,"

Something really needs to be done to help those poor people.

[The Dude]

North Korea has been a long time interest of mine. I hold that no nation in the history of the world, not even Stalinist Russia, is as messed up as North Korea. If North Korea and Sudan are supposedly the least free states then the comparison to be drawn here is probably equal to Russia being the largest country and Canada second, despite the massive difference that exists in square miles of land owned between both.

What can we do to help the people of North Korea? Not much. As the elderly generation who can remember a pre-Kim Korea is now starting to die out, the people who are left in this country are people who have grown up under Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il. They'll have known no better than this.

Part of me feels we should just steamroll North Korea once and for all. But now is not the time for any well-intentioned nation to do this.

[Nikos]

North Korea has been a long time interest of mine. I hold that no nation in the history of the world, not even Stalinist Russia, is as messed up as North Korea. If North Korea and Sudan are supposedly the least free states then the comparison to be drawn here is probably equal to Russia being the largest country and Canada second, despite the massive difference that exists in square miles of land owned between both.

What can we do to help the people of North Korea? Not much. As the elderly generation who can remember a pre-Kim Korea is now starting to die out, the people who are left in this country are people who have grown up under Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il. They'll have known no better than this.

Part of me feels we should just steamroll North Korea once and for all. But now is not the time for any well-intentioned nation to do this.

Only too true I'm afraid. I mean look what they air on television!

[The Dude]

Haha mate I've seen pretty much every internet documentary and video on North Korea there is available. I could show you sicker stuff than this. If you're interested.

[Nikos]

Haha mate I've seen pretty much every internet documentary and video on North Korea there is available. I could show you sicker stuff than this. If you're interested.

As have I, It breaks my heart. This is just one of the first things that popped up on youtube. It also amazes me how such a country can exist in 2009.

[The Dude]

As have I, It breaks my heart. This is just one of the first things that popped up on youtube. It also amazes me how such a country can exist in 2009.

Try this documentary. It's a 14 episoded series of 3 to 4 minutes per episode. Each episode starts off with a little bit of propaganda and then it follows the reporters who made the documentary on foot.

http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1438428757

The episode index is to the right of the screen.

[Thanatos]

It also amazes me how such a country can exist in 2009.

Technology and civilization is nothing more than a nice convenient skin-deep cover for the depravities of humanity. It's nothing new. If anything, people working together in peace and harmony is amazing and unique. Oppression and chaos has always been the status quo of history.

[Quadratus]

Only too true I'm afraid. I mean look what they air on television!

Yeah that's disturbing, but noting like this:





Talk about brainwashing

[Barry Goldwater]

Well, this is NK & Sudan we're talking about so...while still horrifying and retarded on countless levels...is it really a surprise?

Ironically enough, I think NK may be the world's first (and hopefully last) Communist theocratic monarchy.

Kim Jong Il needs to be shot in the head multiple times. But there is probably someone next in line in that screwed-up place.

I would very much like to toss a grenade at the whole Kim dynasty.

[Markas]

Is that a North Korean Martin Sheen at 2.35? I knew a bloody Liberal would be behind it somewhere.

N.K is one of few places I would rather be dead than have to live in, and the N.Koreans one of the peoples I feel most sorry for.

[Nikos]

Damn double post

[Thanatos]

Well, it's not that I want to be a buzzkill or a Debbie Downer or anything, it's just that I'm a realist, and the sad truth is that while humanity is capable of some of the most wonderful things, it doesn't change the fact that for the most part, it's an incredibly filthy stream.

[Da Skinna]

Well, it's not that I want to be a buzzkill or a Debbie Downer or anything, it's just that I'm a realist, and the sad truth is that while humanity is capable of some of the most wonderful things, it doesn't change the fact that for the most part, it's an incredibly filthy stream.

Oh you're definitely being a Debbie Downer, that's for sure.

Of course our history of being able to think with the freedom we can today hasn't always been.

[cristophe el perno]

Sad though this is, it's hardly suprising or newsworthy.

[Jwb187]

Kim Jong Il needs to be shot in the head multiple times. But there is probably someone next in line in that screwed-up place.

[bushbush]

my mom's colleagues went to NK in early 2000s. The poverty level is really beyond anyone's imagination. They brought along some bottled water and the hotel staff was amazed about it (seriously, bottled water is amazing?) and they gave him a bottle and he was so freaken happy.

[The Dude]

my mom's colleagues went to NK in early 2000s. The poverty level is really beyond anyone's imagination. They brought along some bottled water and the hotel staff was amazed about it (seriously, bottled water is amazing?) and they gave him a bottle and he was so freaken happy.

The lady who gives tours at the people's library of Pyongyang is all excited about adjustable tables and how the great genius of eternal president Kim Il Sung has spawned these miracles of creation.

It's beyond absurd.

[Quadratus]

The lady who gives tours at the people's library of Pyongyang is all excited about adjustable tables and how the great genius of eternal president Kim Il Sung has spawned these miracles of creation.

It's beyond absurd.

Yeah I saw a video where this Eye doc went to NK and did Eye surgeries, after they healed and opened there eyes, the first thing they did was look at THE DEAR LEADER and started worshiping him and saying THANK YOU DEAR LEADER FOR MAKING ME ABLE TO SEE YOUR WONDERFUL FACE...

LOL

[Nikos]

my mom's colleagues went to NK in early 2000s. The poverty level is really beyond anyone's imagination. They brought along some bottled water and the hotel staff was amazed about it (seriously, bottled water is amazing?) and they gave him a bottle and he was so freaken happy.

It's your fault their is still a North Korea, Damn Chinese human wave'

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j/k

[bushbush]

It's your fault their is still a North Korea, Damn Chinese human wave'

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

j/k

actually i agree lol. Korean war was a mistake for China. China was ass poor after WW2, went into huge debt (soviet "aids" weren't free) and sent half million Chinese troops to die in a foreign country to keep a dictator in power. It makes no sense looking back.